What is the actual process?

[Brian]

I'm sure you're fine if you had a lawyer do it. There are forums where guys have posted copies of trusts they "found", sometimes people download those and change the names, but they have no idea what state it was originally written for, etc.

Sounds like you're good!

[BigBear]

Ah, rgr. Thxs.

BB

[Great-Kazoo]

I was under the impression that I do not worry about the Schedule A/Inventory until product is actually in my hand.... am I wrong?

Your Schedule A should have something in there like a $5 or $10 bill (serial number) That's what you send in. Any NFA item being applied for does not go on there till approved.
There's various opinion's about the Schedule A and need to list every approved NFA item on there , every time one submits another application. I have my SA current and do include it (with all applicable nfa items) with each submittable. The reason i do it is. IF there's a new[er] examiner they can see it ain't my first rodeo, especially when it's been 6 months to a year since my last app.

I've done this since i started e-filing due to an issue with paper 4-5 years back. I forgot to sign the citizenship card. The examiner i spoke with said i need to redo this them resubmit and wait. I informed him IF he looked at past approvals, i had 2 of them 3 months prior. At that point he said well since you were approved recently, i'll let it slide

[Brian]

I was under the impression that I do not worry about the Schedule A/Inventory until product is actually in my hand.... am I wrong?

Your Schedule A should have something in there like a $5 or $10 bill (serial number) That's what you send in. Any NFA item being applied for does not go on there till approved.
There's various opinion's about the Schedule A and need to list every approved NFA item on there , every time one submits another application. I have my SA current and do include it (with all applicable nfa items) with each submittable. The reason i do it is. IF there's a new[er] examiner they can see it ain't my first rodeo, especially when it's been 6 months to a year since my last app.

I've done this since i started e-filing due to an issue with paper 4-5 years back. I forgot to sign the citizenship card. The examiner i spoke with said i need to redo this them resubmit and wait. I informed him IF he looked at past approvals, i had 2 of them 3 months prior. At that point he said well since you were approved recently, i'll let it slide

Most of the time at this point, if you get rejected due to a paperwork issue, you can either call the examiner or send it back in ASAP and you go to the top of the stack, not the bottom. However, why risk it? Make it right the first time, right?

Side note, but if you're not rich like Kazoo, you can use a $1 bill instead of a $5 or $10. The point is the trust has to be "funded" with something of value. I'd just leave that $1 bill in the safe and never sell it, so you're always funded, even if you're buying/selling items in the trust later on.

Back when I did my stuff in a trust, I sent in an updated Schedule A each time as well. You can add the item as soon as you own it (paid for it) even though you can't possess it, but most people just wait for the paperwork to come back before they add it. In the past, ATF apparently actually double checked previous submissions and rejected some guy's trust because he sent in a Schedule A that didn't have previously approved items on it. However, I never saw proof of that and haven't heard anything like that in a long time. Still - better safe than sorry!

[Chief_of_Scouts]

This seems as good as any thread to ask this question...

I too, recently got an NFA Trust ( Revocable Living Trust ) to play the gun muffler game. I purchased the SilencerShop NFA Trust ( http://www.silencershop.com/services/nfa-gun-trust.html ). This trust is made to ensure it meets all applicable laws and requirements for the state of Colorado.

This is directly from the instruction sheet that came from SilencerShop with my trust:

"What states require registration?The following states require that trusts be registered with a local court:
Alaska
Colorado
Hawaii
Idaho
Michigan
Missouri
North Dakota

The question I have to all of the Colorado NFA Trust owners is; how did you go about registering your trust? I see that Colorado is one of the few states that requires the NFA Trust to be registered with the court. I printed the Trust Registration Statement form from the court website. I then went to the courthouse to have it recorded. The clerk told me that I must get a probate attorney to fill out the statement, file the statement under a case number and wait for a judge to make a decision on the Trust. I tried to explain to the clerk that I wasn't looking for disposition of property, only to meet the recording requirement. She repeated her previous statement.

Please, can anyone that has an NFA Trust in Colorado shed some light on this?

Thanks

[buffalobo]

A PM to member NFATrustGuy should net the info you need.

He has been the go to guy for many folks setting up NFA Trusts.

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[kidicarus13]

The question I have to all of the Colorado NFA Trust owners is; how did you go about registering your trust? I see that Colorado is one of the few states that requires the NFA Trust to be registered with the court. I printed the Trust Registration Statement form from the court website. I then went to the courthouse to have it recorded. The clerk told me that I must get a probate attorney to fill out the statement, file the statement under a case number and wait for a judge to make a decision on the Trust. I tried to explain to the clerk that I wasn't looking for disposition of property, only to meet the recording requirement. She repeated her previous statement.

If this is true I believe a lot of Colorado trust owners will have some issues with their trusts. Probably just inaccurate information.

[cfortune]

If this is true I believe a lot of Colorado trust owners will have some issues with their trusts. Probably just inaccurate information.

I've had two stamps approved and I didn't register my trust anywhere. Waiting on a 3rd (and 4th at the end of the week) so we'll see in 100 days or so.

[kidicarus13]

I've had two stamps approved and I didn't register my trust anywhere. Waiting on a 3rd (and 4th at the end of the week) so we'll see in 100 days or so.

ATF approval does not necessarily equal a valid, legally correct Trust.

[cfortune]

ATF approval does not necessarily equal a valid, legally correct Trust.

No, it does not. If it was a requirement though, I'd be willing to bet their lawyers would have caught on by now.