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    Also worth mentioning is the NIJ rating system. Your rifle plates are going to be rated as Level III (not to be confused with Level IIIA soft armor) or Level IV. Level II plates will be tested against 6 rds. The Level IV plates may be single hit or multi-hit rated (up to 6). They also might be stand alone or In Conjunction With, usually written as ICW, meaning for the rating to apply they need to be worn with a soft armor backer.

    Per the NIJ testing protocol, a plate rated at Level III has to stop 147gr 7.62mm. Level IV has to defeat 166gr .30cal AP.

    Your armor selection needs to be based on the threat. If your realistic threat level is high velocity rifle rounds, it might be worth level IV plates.

    Notice 5.56 is not in the testing protocol. This is especially important given that AR500 steel isn't great against high velocity projectiles like M193 out of a 16in rifle. Once velocity goes north of 2900 FPS the round will ding the hell out of steel. Armor quality or otherwise.

    If you're interested in this stuff look up Doc Gary Roberts posts on Lightfighter (he posts as DocGKR)

    http://www.lightfighter.net/forum/he...and-body-armor

    It might also be worth glancing through the NIJ stuff on their .gov website.

    http://www.nij.gov/topics/technology...s/welcome.aspx
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    Mick-Boy, Is there an industry rule of listed size versus actual coverage provided for plates? I notice some places list nominal only and others list an actual measurement as well that is 1/2 to 1 inch smaller.

    Example: 10x12 on one site looks like its single-curve is 9.5x11.5 and its multi-curve model is 9.1x11.2. Never used plates and this would seem to complicate proper fitting if ordering online.

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    I'm unaware of any type of industry standard for plates. Actual ESAPI plates should be uniform. Likewise MBAV. In general though I haven't had an issue buying a like sized plate hanger (Small plates = small plate carrier, etc.).
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    I took the cummerbund off and went with the straps. I'm not running side plates so no need for it really it is much more comfortable with out the cummerbund at least for my body type.

    We dont have dreams of running around saving the world(to fat&out of shape) so we went with the ar500 plates. They should serve us well if we have to defend our family. With the carrier fitted and snuged on you the extra weight isint to bad, it is just a bitch to sholder your rifle with that plate in the way. just my 2 cents.


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    I found the shellback's cummerbund wasn't long enough for me at stock configuration. Yes I'm fat!!I guess I could get longer shock or pararcord and extend the cummerbund. I'll have to give them a try again tomorrow. I think I will invest in a good carrier and AR500 plates now and upgrade later
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    Quote Originally Posted by beast556 View Post
    I took the cummerbund off and went with the straps. I'm not running side plates so no need for it really it is much more comfortable with out the cummerbund at least for my body type.

    We dont have dreams of running around saving the world(to fat&out of shape) so we went with the ar500 plates. They should serve us well if we have to defend our family. With the carrier fitted and snuged on you the extra weight isint to bad, it is just a bitch to shoUlder your rifle with that plate in the way. just my 2 cents.
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    Went and tried more plate carriers and changed my mind again.... Mayflower APC is the one.

    what about the "shelf life" on ceramic plates? i know its rated at 5 years, and i know they are technically worthless after 5 years. Is anyone out there worried about their expired ceramic plates not being able to do the job?
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    Hey does yours apc have the velcro on the abdomens portion of the molle strap? I saw a history channel episode on armor and saw that some were compressed time may play a factor on those, I'm no expert I think they probably last longer the manufacture may be playing it safe...
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    I wouldn't be too worried about it. We just shot some ceramic plates from 2003 and they worked just fine.
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    Hey Mick will IIIa soft armor stop a ricochet from a rifle round? I have did a poor search and didn't really find a reliable source.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lex137 View Post
    Hey Mick will IIIa soft armor stop a ricochet from a rifle round? I have did a poor search and didn't really find a reliable source.
    Ricochet towards you or from hitting you, as bouncing off the plate?
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