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    Appreciate all the advice. I'll ask him if he wants to deal with shooting ideas - obviously I'd be thrilled to help with that and I'm sure a few of you would even join in too - but I'll let that be his call.

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    You could find out about a tour of the Vet school at CSU in Ft. Fun, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mykidsdad View Post
    What you are suggesting places a volunteer Scout leader at profound legal risk. Scouting has rules for a reason and the protection by insurance afforded under those rules mandates that leaders leaders follow the strictures regarding Scout safety as mandated by the national organization.

    Not saying that the members of this forum cannot provide a safe and fun filled experience. Just that once an activity is commenced under the auspices of a Scout sanctioned event that these rules and procedures must be followed to the letter.

    What you choose to do on you own accord is certainly your business and I am in now way challenging that. But for the legal welfare of volunteer adult leadership the troop must follow the mandates of the program.
    Your input is much appreciated. What i would offer will not be a BSA sanctioned event. Just a causal get together with some out of state folks who share similar hobbies. Now taking some of them to the strip club, is there a merit badge for that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo View Post
    Your input is much appreciated. What i would offer will not be a BSA sanctioned event. Just a causal get together with some out of state folks who share similar hobbies. Now taking some of them to the strip club, is there a merit badge for that?
    Believe me. I totally get what everybody here WANTS to do for the Scouts. I am with you there. With all of the LE and Mil experience as well as trained and experienced civilians collectively acting as Scout leaders nationwide we have a deep talent pool.

    However, since the Scouts originated on a Scout sanctioned event/trip and they are out of state, they are required to file a tour plan with their local council. Since the trip started as a Scout sanctioned event it stays a Scout sanctioned event until their return home. Scout leaders are required to fully comport with the rules to maintain their insured protection for the full duration of the planed trip.

    I am not saying that some leaders don't stray from the plans and rules. Just not a risk I would consider with kids that are not my own.

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    ^ saved me a post Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mykidsdad View Post
    Believe me. I totally get what everybody here WANTS to do for the Scouts. I am with you there. With all of the LE and Mil experience as well as trained and experienced civilians collectively acting as Scout leaders nationwide we have a deep talent pool.

    However, since the Scouts originated on a Scout sanctioned event/trip and they are out of state, they are required to file a tour plan with their local council. Since the trip started as a Scout sanctioned event it stays a Scout sanctioned event until their return home. Scout leaders are required to fully comport with the rules to maintain their insured protection for the full duration of the planed trip.

    I am not saying that some leaders don't stray from the plans and rules. Just not a risk I would consider with kids that are not my own.
    Thanks. This makes complete sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mykidsdad View Post
    Believe me. I totally get what everybody here WANTS to do for the Scouts. I am with you there. With all of the LE and Mil experience as well as trained and experienced civilians collectively acting as Scout leaders nationwide we have a deep talent pool.

    However, since the Scouts originated on a Scout sanctioned event/trip and they are out of state, they are required to file a tour plan with their local council. Since the trip started as a Scout sanctioned event it stays a Scout sanctioned event until their return home. Scout leaders are required to fully comport with the rules to maintain their insured protection for the full duration of the planed trip.

    I am not saying that some leaders don't stray from the plans and rules. Just not a risk I would consider with kids that are not my own.
    Appreciate the clarification.
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    How many people?

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    Great Guns in Nunn is a "sanctioned" range and all that is needed is an NRA cert'd instructor and RSO for it to be BSA approved. For any other questions as far as shooting go, Ken Craft out of the Greeley BSA office is the guy to talk to. I believe Weld county and Pawnee are on the approved range list as well.
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