SCOTUS Affirms ACA

[BushMasterBoy]

Anyone who ever crossed the clinton's is now taking a dirt nap.

Like a former chef that drowned in the New Mexico desert? I sure don't miss Little Rock...

http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/22/politi...ng-found-dead/

[Bailey Guns]

^^ Oh, OK. I see what you're saying.

Just a reminder...not a SINGLE republican voted for SCOTUScare (thanks Justice Scalia for the new term). Republicans had nothing to do with this legislation and they've voted almost 40 times (I think that's about right) in the House to repeal it.

[Mtn.man]

So we continue to roll down the hill out of control.

More gun control, ammo bans, gov. wanting reports on ammo purchases, you can't live off the grid,
gov. wants banks to snitch on people depositing or withdrawing as little as 5k.
The SHIT ball is getting huge.

[HoneyBadger]

Interesting observation, sellersm. I do agree that tyrants are best stopped before they get started!

I have been studying Mongol history for the last few weeks and have come across an interesting theory (phenomenon?) sometimes referred to as creative destruction. There are many historians and others who believe that when civilization becomes boxed into a corner and the growth becomes stagnant, it is necessary for some sort of massive destruction in order to "free the logjam" and allow civilization to progress. For example, the Romans brought many advanced technologies to most of the surrounding Mediterranean and European people, along with advanced governing systems and economics during their conquests. The fact that they slaughtered hundreds of thousands (probably millions), raped as many and enslaved many more is a tiny little detail that we don't need to worry about...

It is easy to justify (or at least understand) certain historical events with this perspective because we are so detached from the horror of the atrocities. However the less removed we are from the events, the harder it is to justify the destruction. Prime example: Genghis Khan directed the murders of tens of millions in the most brutal fashion imagineable, and his men raped MILLIONS (which is why his direct bloodline is the most common anywhere in the world today... nearly 1:500 people anywhere in the world are direct descendants of Genghis Khan), but many apologists and revisionist historians have spent centuries brushing that aside while proclaiming the age-old "But just LOOK at what he did! He revolutionized the use of horses! He revolutionized trade! He revolutionized the way in which a kingdom could be managed from afar! He revolutionized...." blah blah blah. I'm certain it is still too fresh in our memories, but I would bet that within the next century, someone will write a book praising the genetic and scientific developments of the Third Reich.

On a level that we may better sympathize with, the American revolution was a lot of death and destruction. It was ugly, nasty, bloody. Is it easy for us to say now that it was worth it? Absolutely. If you could go back to 1780 and ask a widow if it was worth losing her family and home, she may be a bit less enthusiastic. If the revolution started tomorrow, would anyone care a hundred years from now about the individual lives lost? Most certainly not. But since we are here now talking about the real world, I would much rather myself and my family did not have to live in a time filled with such devastation, destruction, and loss. When I didn't have a family to be responsible for, I understandably had a different tone, but now my first and foremost concern is the providing for and protection of my family. If all hell breaks loose, then sure I'll take up my sword and shield, but until then, I'll stick with reason and the pen, while encouraging others to do the same.

[Mtn.man]

Iceland rebound very well after their 08' collapse. They let the bankers rot.
We could very well see a collapse of banking, government, etc. within a few years.

[KestrelBike]

I think a lot of our stability is actually dependent on China. What if they pull the pin somehow: with a coup that we didn't see coming, their economy collapsing and calling in our debt, or dragging us down anyways with how much we depend on their cash and manufacturing. Imo, besides the usual doom and gloom scenarios, we're ripe for a complete blindside that we haven't yet considered or are capable of confronting until it's too late. Look at ww1: America entered it, but what the hell did we have to do with the assassination of Franz Ferdinand?

[Big John]

If something doesn't change soon...

Rather than die the death of a million cut's, I'll be voting for Hillary and get it over with. Rip the band-aid off and quit fucking around.



Yes, that was me expressing this to Mandy this am.

[Irving]

HBar has a strong point. How many people in the South during the first Civil war felt that they are fighting for what they thought was right?

[Gman]

[GilpinGuy]

Watching politics today is like watching the WWF. All the fighters put on a good show then laugh at us peasants as they party at our expense. Sorry, but Rs and Ds are pretty much the same these days. Go ahead and flame me......