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Um... Purchasing that book online will likely result in getting added to lists most would prefer to stay off of. I don't think I want to give anyone reason to use such a purchase against me either.Originally Posted by DireWolf
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i think association with Kazoo already puts us on all sorts of lists.
Progressive ideology, ideas so good they must be mandatory.
Your freedom to be you includes my freedom to be free from you.
I'm sure that with the current state of data collection and behavioral analysis that I (as with most of us I would imagine) was already on all said lists prior to any particular book purchase....
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Is the author related to Tom Martino? He has a list too.
I simply found it to be an interesting read with some well put together analysis in the first part of the book, and thought I'd share...not forcing anyone to go buy it or even agree with me, so we can leave it at that....Is the author related to Tom Martino? He has a list too.
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So your way is the only way? You are free to choose to be the eternal (frustrated) optimist. I'd love to be able to take that stance. I may take this stance with you in the end. I will not know until the primary. If the primary doesn't produce a candidate that holds the values I deem necessary to stop the bleeding, voting R will no longer be an option for me.This is exactly right. There's no guarantee the results of an internal conflict are going to be favorable to whatever side you're on.
Yeah... That's smart and makes tons of sense. Good luck with that.Sometimes there just aren't enough face-palms.
^Precisely.
Revolution/Civil War does not often create a Republic.
It usually results in a series of dictators that then must be overthrown.
It's a long terrible process to get back to the start.
"There is nothing new under the sun."
Good read at: http://thoughts-and-stuff-zwright.bl...on-of-all.html
"... God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty.... And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure."
Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 (C.J. Boyd, Ed., 1950)
The words of Thomas Jefferson above can be an advertisement to how serious the Founding Fathers took the preservation of liberty. They understood the natural progression of Governments. They all begin as Republics that respect and honor the individual rights and liberties of each and every man. Taking great care to preserve those liberties and understanding that limited Government was the only way in which to insure that continuity.
But along the way Governments somehow evolve into a concept that the individual rights are not as important as the will of the majority. An evolved belief that Majority Rule should be the prevailing concept…where it is put to a vote and the majority determines the rules, regulations, laws and proper conduct of society.
Recognizing that with each such vote the rights and liberties of more and more citizens are infringed upon in the name of Majority Rule.
The Founding Fathers understood how dangerous this concept would be to the ultimate destruction of Government and leading the way eventually to the concept of rule by a single man…a single man that would make himself or herself, king, queen, monarch, dictator or even eventually to the point of absolute tyrant.
The natural progression of government then becomes one of:
Republic → Democracy → Single Rule (Monarchy, Dictator, Tyranny) → Revolution
↑________________And the Process Begins Again___________________↓
The average existence of all governments since the beginning is approximately 200 years before the process begins anew. Some much longer, some much shorter to derive the average, but the Founding Fathers advocated the reality of forcing the Government back to its roots on a periodic basis.
Consider this phrase taken directly from the Declaration of Independence and you will understand where they were coming from and what they were trying to protect:
“…Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government.”
http://www.ushistory.org/declaration/document/
"Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." Thomas Jefferson
"Government is not reason; it is not eloquence. It is force. And force, like fire, is a dangerous servant and a fearful master." George Washington
Have we as a people forgotten the powerful concepts that our Founding Fathers put in place for this “Great American Experiment”, or have we ventured into the evolution of the natural progression of Government that they so greatly feared. When you look at the dissolution of the two party system and the presumption of power assumed by the executive branch through the use of Executive Orders and Proclamations; the melting away of the three branches of Government where are we on that fatal timeline.
Maybe it is time for all of America to take a strong look at our Government, who the real power brokers are and determine how we will return this great nation to one of a Republic and restore the principles of the Constitution.
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