Chicago group sues 3 communities over gun store regulations

[theGinsue]

It's always somebody else's fault. Why is it so hard for Chicago to accept that their own laws and culture are to blame for their problems?

The State of Illinois has some of the most stringent firearm & firearm-related laws in the country. When I lived there I couldn't even look at a box of ammo without first showing my Firearms Owners Identification (FOID) card. I once moved 2 blocks down the same street (Air Force base housing) and my FOID card was invalidated until I re-applied for a new FOID.

In this situation, the firearms retailers were severely investigated and found to be doing everything by the letter of the law. Since the anti-gunners in Chicago couldn't find cause to go after the retailers, they decided they could go after the communities where the retailers exist.

Chicago doesn't have a gun problem (other than not honoring lawful citizens Constitutional rights), they have a crime problem. But in typical anti-gunner fashion they're choosing to ignore the criminals and go after the tools used by the criminals. These criminals undoubtedly do not get their guns by buying from a legal retailer & waiting the required 72 hours (24 hours for rifles & shotguns) or many via straw purchases - they get the bulk of them by stealing them from lawful gun owners.

Two mothers who lost sons to gun violence joined ministers and an activist Tuesday in a lawsuit against three Chicago suburbs, alleging that weak oversight of gun shops has allowed criminals to easily obtain weapons flowing into a city besieged by gun violence.

The lawsuit accuses Lyons, Riverdale and Lincolnwood communities of violating the civil rights of residents in Chicago’s largely African American neighborhoods by failing to take concrete steps to make sure gun stores are not selling weapons to people who shouldn’t be allowed to carry them.

The full story can be found at: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/07/08...cmp=latestnews

[cstone]

Those municipalities should consider countersuing Chicago for causing their crime rate to increase based on the number of guns stolen from private homes.

The only people who really make money out of these pointless lawsuits are lawyers.

Is Chicago a sanctuary city?

[HoneyBadger]

LOL! It's Chicago, what do you expect?

Maybe we should sue New York City for allowing some of its residents and leadership to be hypocritical fools. (SAFE Act, anyone?)

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It's always somebody else's fault. Why is it so hard for Chicago to accept that their own laws and culture are to blame for their problems?

[snip]

That's always what it comes down to. For years Shitcago has blamed the "accessibility" of guns from outside the city for their own failures.

We can ban all guns, confiscate, melt them all down, and it would still be someone else's fault when their sons murder each other. I recall the honor student who was working hard to get out and make something of himself. Beaten to death while waiting for the school bus... With a 2x4 that just happened to be laying by the side of the street.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/2009/09...r-student.html


But yeah, it's guns in the burbs that are problem!

[speedysst]

"They lost sons to gun violence." What a very vague term. How about "They had sons who were shot by people who don't give a damn who they hurt or kill." That would be a little more truthful.

[SamuraiCO]

I often wonder how it is people can rationalize their decisions and embrace this train of thought about modern weapons when our history is so full of instances where tyranny and slavery happened at the end weapons against those who had none. For as long as we have written records this has been true and probably even before that.

It is one of those instances where it is clear the difference in how some of us think and rationalize the facts versus others. It really surprises me how fast this change happens within society.

You also see it clearly when there is any type of panic situation. Some are not able to process the information around them and become helpless, curl up in a fetal ball or cry out for help. Others are able to process and move forward and help themselves and help others.

I often wonder if certain pathways in the brain turn off as we live in more populated centers and our survival mode is "turned off". Maybe this is why there is differences in MRI's between "conservative" and "progressive" thought processes. Differences in large population centers versus rural.

No amount of sensible controls will work. If someone wants to do evil against someone else they will find an appropriate tool to do their bidding.

[Rucker61]

I often wonder how it is people can rationalize their decisions and embrace this train of thought about modern weapons when our history is so full of instances where tyranny and slavery happened at the end weapons against those who had none. For as long as we have written records this has been true and probably even before that.

"He/she may be a tyrant, but he's OUR tyrant, and anyway, we're counting on a trustee position over you lesser slaves".