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    Default Say it isn't so, Whataburger?

    Whataburger takes stand against Texas' new open carry law

    SAN ANTONIO — An iconic Texas restaurant chain will not allow the open carrying of guns on its properties, and industry experts say other restaurants will likely take the same stand against a new state law legalizing the practice in many public places.

    Whataburger — with some 780 locations in 10 states — has drawn a mix of praise and rebuke since making the announcement this month, including a prediction of boycotts from one of the state's leading advocates for gun rights.

    In an open letter on the company's website, Whataburger president and CEO Preston Atkinson said many employees and customers are "uncomfortable being around someone with a visible firearm." He described himself as an avid hunter with a concealed-carry license and noted that patrons licensed to carry concealed handguns will still be able to do so in Whataburger.

    Atkinson's letter comes one month after Texas Gov. Greg Abbott signed a bill that made it legal to carry handguns openly on the streets of the nation's second most-populous state, ending a prohibition dating back to the post-Civil War era that disarmed former Confederate soldiers and freed slaves.

    The law, which gives private property owners the right to prohibit open carry, was hailed as a victory for gun rights advocates who have staged high-profile rallies at the Alamo and Texas Capitol over the past couple of years. Some even brought military-style assault rifles into businesses as part of their demonstrations, prompting the Chipotle restaurant chain to discourage firearms on their premises.

    Whataburger's decision is expected to pave the way for other restaurants to enact similar policies that will further limit where gun owners can openly carry their firearms when the law takes effect in January.

    Texas Restaurant Association CEO Richie Jackson said he wasn't surprised by Whataburger's advance announcement, noting that "gun rights do not trump property rights" under the new law.

    "It can't be kept a secret," he said. "Given the number of units that they have in Texas, they just wanted to make it very clear as to where they were going to be, and I would expect to see a number of restaurants follow."

    But Open Carry Texas founder C.J. Grisham said Whataburger's policy was "premature and irresponsible," and that the restaurant caved to "fear mongering."
    "I think most gun owners that know this policy are simply not going to go to Whataburger, like me," he said.

    The group Moms Demand Action For Gun Sense in America put out a statement applauding Whataburger's actions. The organization has successfully petitioned other chains, including Sonic and Chili's Grill & Bar, to adopt similar policies.

    Stephanie Lundy, spokeswoman for the organization's Texas chapter, said she has spoken to mothers who have teenage children working in the company's restaurants late at night. "They do not feel that part of their job description should involve assessing the intention of armed folks," she said.

    She described Atkinson's announcement as "good old Texas common sense."

    "Texans are bold and brave," she said. "And that is what you are seeing from this CEO who is a gun owner."
    Patrons have reacted in different ways.

    Outside a Whataburger in San Antonio, Charlie Hair said he would feel safer if the chain allowed customers to openly carry firearms. "I prefer an armed society to an unarmed one," he said as he exited with his 8-year-old son.

    But Mary Jones, who was with her 15-year-old grandson, said she was happy that Whataburger took a stand against open carry.

    "Why do you need to bring a gun into a store where there are kids?" she asked. "We are not in the Wild, Wild West."
    I'm willing to bet that Mary Jones doesn't know dick about the "Wild Wild West".
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    Damn. And I liked eating at Whataburger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ray1970 View Post
    Damn. And I liked eating at Whataburger.
    Me too made the trip every time I went back.
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    I don't have a problem with it. Property owners rights. 2A rights. I decide the rules in my house. He says as long as you have a permit, he has no problem with concealed carry. I'm good with that.
    Have more of an issue with establishments that do not allow concealed carry. I try to avoid those.
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    "Why do you need to bring a gun into a store where there are kids?"

    Um...well apparently you are NOT sufficiently endowed with grey matter for me to explain it to you. Tell you what, I'll give you a hint! The crazies will come, and they will shoot at the "kids", and when they do, and once again, they will, wouldn't it be nice for some nice sane individual with a gun to shoot back? Too complex for you???????

    BTW, what the heck do "kids" have to do with it? I was out at Pawnee Sportsmen's Center today, and there were over 20 "kids" with shotguns having a blast at an ATA shoot. Did I miss the memo?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha2 View Post
    "Why do you need to bring a gun into a store where there are kids?"

    The Derp is strong in this one.
    Apparently Shady Hook, Columbine etc are all figments of our imagination.....
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    Had a Whataburger yesterday.....What is under my shirt is my business
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    Quote Originally Posted by wyome View Post
    Had a Whataburger yesterday.....What is under my shirt is my business
    Is that a ccw comment or a fat joke?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    Is that a ccw comment or a fat joke?
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    I don't get the outrage over the position Whataburger has taken. The wording of the headline is also misleading and inaccurate: Whataburger takes stand against Texas' new open carry law

    They didn't take a stand against the law, they didn't oppose the law and they haven't said the law is a bad thing. They developed a corporate policy based on the law. They are well within their rights to do so. Why is it so many of you demand your 2A rights are respected yet fail to realize others have rights as well? The CEO is a gun owner and has a carry permit. Obviously he's not anti-gun. He just made a decision that he felt was right for his company and naturally plenty of people gotta get all butt-hurt over it.

    Based on the way some people who OC act, I can't say I blame the guy.

    I'll be happy to head into the next Whataburger I see...with my concealed handgun.
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