Active Shooter in TN: US Naval and Army centers, officer down

[davsel]

Finally

"Our thoughts and prayers as a Nation are with the service members killed last week in Chattanooga. We honor their service. We offer our gratitude to the police officers and first responders who stopped the rampage and saved lives. We draw strength from yet another American community that has come together with an unmistakable message to those who would try and do us harm: We do not give in to fear. You cannot divide us. And you will not change our way of life," Obama writes in a presidential proclamation.
"We ask God to watch over the fallen, the families, and their communities. As a mark of respect for the victims of the senseless acts of violence perpetrated on July 16, 2015, in Chattanooga, Tennessee, by the authority vested in me as President of the United States by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, I hereby order that the flag of the United States shall be flown at half-staff at the White House and upon all public buildings and grounds, at all military posts and naval stations, and on all naval vessels of the Federal Government in the District of Columbia and throughout the United States and its Territories and possessions until sunset, July 25, 2015. I also direct that the flag shall be flown at half-staff for the same length of time at all United States embassies, legations, consular offices, and other facilities abroad, including all military facilities and naval vessels and stations.
"IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand this twenty-first day of July, in the year of our Lord two thousand fifteen, and of the Independence of the United States of America the two hundred and fortieth."

[davsel]

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=230402

Obama Hates Our Military -- And Their Service

Why do we have anything to do with this clown-car crap? When is it enough?

The White House has now reversed itself and ordered flags flown at half-mast -- but not until after they refused to do so while the Capitol (and the States) did so.

How much more do you need to see when 5 of our servicemembers are gunned down in an act of terrorism on our soil, potentiated by a government that refuses to recognize everyone's 2nd Amendment rights, including members of our military, and then goes even further by posting "gun free zone" signs on the door!

Oh, it doesn't stop there either. If your grandmother has a gun for personal protection (and is not a frail older person the exact sort of person for whom that equalizer is most important) but has to run her bank account for her Obama wants to confiscate her gun.

Where is your limit of tolerance for this crap America?

You don't need any damn permit to write a blog or start and operate a newspaper.

You don't need any damn permit to worship as you see fit.

If anyone tried to tell you that needed a permit to write either in print or online, or before you could pray, you'd stick up the middle finger.

A right is not conditioned on any damn permit and the Second Amendment is clear in its language just as is the First Amendment -- so why is your middle finger not in the air right here and now?

[hollohas]

Navy Times is reporting that TWO soldiers fired back. Unconfirmed if they hit the bad guy at this point. But it's a reasonable assumption that their return fire would have either slowed him down or made him retreat.

http://www.navytimes.com/story/milit...nman/30426817/

A Navy officer and a Marine fired their sidearms hoping to kill or subdue the gunman who murdered five service members last week in Chattanooga, Tennessee, according to multiple military officials familiar with internal reporting on the tragedy.
It remains unclear whether either hit Muhammad Abdulazeez, who was shot and killed on July 16 after he gunned down four Marines and a sailor at the Navy Operational Support Center in Chattanooga. It's also unclear why they were armed, as it is against Defense Department policy for anyone other than military police or law enforcement to carry weapons on federal property.

[BPTactical]

Finally

Caved to pressure. I guarantee you that had Congress not dropped theirs to half staff, the WH sure wasn't.
Also no way FBHO was going to do it until Ramadangalinglong was over with.

[BPTactical]

Navy Times is reporting that TWO soldiers fired back. Unconfirmed if they hit the bad guy at this point. But it's a reasonable assumption that their return fire would have either slowed him down or made him retreat.

http://www.navytimes.com/story/milit...nman/30426817/

Convenient spin to bolster the "See, it wouldn't had made any difference if they were armed.." mentality.

[hollohas]

no soldiers fired back...

One was a Marine and one was a Sailor. Marines are not soldiers. Marines are the better more capable version of a soldier.

Split hairs. Sorry to offend, but I'm a civilian. The dictionary defines a soldier as "a person who is in the military" so I had no idea is wasn't correct in this circumstance. It won't happen again

[Skip]

Convenient spin to bolster the "See, it wouldn't had made any difference if they were armed.." mentality.

Every round fired at the attacker mattered. PERIOD. Might have slowed him down, forced him to take cover, etc... All limiting his ability to increase casualties. They can spin however they'd like to. If guns aren't going to help in situations like this, why were the police able to resolve it using guns?!?

[sellersm]

Every round fired at the attacker mattered. PERIOD. Might have slowed him down, forced him to take cover, etc... All limiting his ability to increase casualties. They can spin however they'd like to. If guns aren't going to help in situations like this, why were the police able to resolve it using guns?!?

Because they're the professionals...

This whole thing just stinks. Period.

[davsel]