Active Shooter in TN: US Naval and Army centers, officer down

[sellersm]

I think that's a lot of wishful thinking.

Are you stating that you don't think any current/former Marines would fight back?

[hurley842002]

Are you stating that you don't think any current/former Marines would fight back?

I don't think that's what he is saying at all. There were many assumptions made in that post, to be an 0311 and "take out" a jihadi, you'd have to actually be carrying. My brother is a Marine, and has his CCW, but carries very casually, meaning not often. There are just not that many people carrying, not as many as the author made it sound. A lot of bad $h!t has happened, and yet nobody responded with return fire (think Aurora theatre, where there were service members in attendance). The armed populace just isn't what people think it is, definitely a minority.

[Gman]

There are just not that many people carrying, not as many as the author made it sound. A lot of bad $h!t has happened, and yet nobody responded with return fire (think Aurora theatre, where there were service members in attendance). The armed populace just isn't what people think it is, definitely a minority.

Most of these shootings take place in free kill zones, aka "gun free zones". The shooters pick these locations because they want to impose their will without armed resistance.

[hurley842002]

Most of these shootings take place in free kill zones, aka "gun free zones". The shooters pick these locations because they want to impose their will without armed resistance.

That's pretty well known, but doesn't change the fact that there just doesn't seem to be as many armed people (gun free or otherwise), to respond to these attacks, as the OP of that article would suggest.

[Bailey Guns]

I don't think that's what he is saying at all. There were many assumptions made in that post, to be an 0311 and "take out" a jihadi, you'd have to actually be carrying. My brother is a Marine, and has his CCW, but carries very casually, meaning not often. There are just not that many people carrying, not as many as the author made it sound. A lot of bad $h!t has happened, and yet nobody responded with return fire (think Aurora theatre, where there were service members in attendance). The armed populace just isn't what people think it is, definitely a minority.

This, too. Exactly my point.

[Bailey Guns]

Are you stating that you don't think any current/former Marines would fight back?

That's not what I'm saying at all.

The article sounds like a lot of the chest-thumping you hear on the internet so frequently and he isn't saying anything that hasn't been said hundreds of times before. Sure...I have no doubt most would fight back if given the opportunity. But that's a big IF. The people that commit these sorts of killings don't go looking normally to attack hard targets. Or even targets where it's likely people will be armed. Even if they do they'll quickly change tactics and targets once a few of them get whacked.

I think his comments are long on emotion but short on logic. These extremists have been fighting Marines for years now...what makes you think some Facebook posting is going to make them stop?

I agree with the sentiment. I just think it's easier said than done.

[sellersm]

That's not what I'm saying at all.

The article sounds like a lot of the chest-thumping you hear on the internet so frequently and he isn't saying anything that hasn't been said hundreds of times before. Sure...I have no doubt most would fight back if given the opportunity. But that's a big IF. The people that commit these sorts of killings don't go looking normally to attack hard targets. Or even targets where it's likely people will be armed. Even if they do they'll quickly change tactics and targets once a few of them get whacked.

I think his comments are long on emotion but short on logic. These extremists have been fighting Marines for years now...what makes you think some Facebook posting is going to make them stop?

I agree with the sentiment. I just think it's easier said than done.

Thanks for clarifying. Unfortunately, I tend to agree. It's like the other thread(s) about people standing up and doing the right thing. Way too many sheeple in our nation, for far too many years, have been successfully indoctrinated against doing just that. And the enemy knows it, and is exploiting it to full effect.

If you've read "Days of Wrath", the author points out very well, the fact that the enemy knows and plans on our weaknesses and vulnerable spots. Sadly, this event just reinforces the truth...

The girl in the YouTube above has lots of heart, will it cause anyone to stand up and defend/act? Let's hope so... and let's see how long she maintains her job.