gun shows for me are more about the socializing and bsing, lotsa low info gun owners seem to show up, so that what makes prices silly at these types of things.... and some, not all, are only selling at show for that reason, as their storefront doesnt attract enough traffic to support their biz. so these complaints about, same stuff since 1981 are silly, as im not going to find a good "deal", if i do happen to find one, thats just bonus....but nowadays, what im into doesnt really show up at shows...