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    Default Suppressor questions .. form 1 ?

    With the possibility of the trust route being eliminated, I am interested in suppressor.

    After some reading on this forum and others, it seems as though form 1 is the faster and cheaper way to get in the suppressor game. I thought I read that form 1 is efile and form 4 is not? Therefore faster?

    Looking at putting can on a 15-22 and ar15. Would it be possible to build a form 1 suppressor to use on both?

    Mostly been looking at sdtactical's stuff since i dont have access to machining equipment.

    Would i do better saving up $ and get a form 4 suppressor?

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    I wouldn't let 41p stop you from doing a form 4...if it's in process, or already approved, I don't see them trying to go back and disapproving everything...even if 41p does go through, you should have your form 4 suppressor in hand by December.

    It comes down to this...if you want to build one do a form 1. I'm not saying they aren't good, but manufacturers have put a lot of time and money into R&D for new baffle and material technologies that make them worth the money...if you don't have the equipment or care about the satisfaction of building your own, go the form 4 route.

    it is not recommended to run .22 through a .223 can as most .223 or .30 cal cans aren't designed to be broken down and cleaned like a .22 can. And if you get a .22 can, don't go cheap and get an aluminum one...you can't dip them and they're a little more work to clean.

    just get a .22 can like a spectre and a .30 cal can so you can shoot .223 and .308 through it. Even if you don't have a .308 gun, you might get one down the road so the versatility will be worth it.

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    Personally I know my limits when it comes to making things. I could probably do it, maybe a 75% chance I won't eff it up. Then the question is, would I be willing to bet on my work by attaching it to a gun?

    ill just pay for another one or two and be happy with what I've got. A dozen stamps in one year is plenty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rooskibar03 View Post
    Personally I know my limits when it comes to making things. I could probably do it, maybe a 75% chance I won't eff it up. Then the question is, would I be willing to bet on my work by attaching it to a gun?

    ill just pay for another one or two and be happy with what I've got. A dozen stamps in one year is plenty.
    I have 2 up and running with no issues, a 3rd in waiting land. AND sending off in the a.m a F4 / trust for a TBAC Ti Ultra-7 . If one isn't comfortable doing their own work (ONCE APPROVED) it's easier to spend the extra $$$. Yes it's more than a BYO unit, but one cannot put a price on piece of mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vitesse304 View Post
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    it is not recommended to run .22 through a .223 can as most .223 or .30 cal cans aren't designed to be broken down and cleaned like a .22 can. And if you get a .22 can, don't go cheap and get an aluminum one...you can't dip them and they're a little more work to clean.
    So by the looks of things, you "need" at least 3 cans to start out. .22 .30 .45

    That'll get expensive quick. I mostly want one because "they" dont want me to have it. Haven't shot suppressed yet, but it looks like a hoot.

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    I was in the same boat you are. I wanted a "do it all can" but realized its best to have dedicated cans for different calibers. Form 1 suppressors are simple and they are plenty write ups on how to do them. I ended up with a SilencerCo Omega for 30 cal, Spectre II for .22, and a form 1 for 9mm. Commercial .22 cans are so cheap they are almost not worth a form 1 in my opinion.
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    Pay now or, potentially never get to play...the NFA game isn't cheap but well worth it in my opinion. If you want to go cheap, then NFA isn't for you...get a cheap .22 can and you'll hate cleaning it, get a 9mm can because it's cheaper and you might regret not getting it in .45...

    But yes, those 3 cans and you'll be able to suppress just about anything out there. The only downside is before you consider buying a new gun, you'll make sure you can get a threaded barrel first!

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    Rolling my own has been a lot of fun so far. And I'm certainly on my way to my one can for every gun goal. Shooting unsuppressed is so uncivilized!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thvigil11 View Post
    Rolling my own has been a lot of fun so far. And I'm certainly on my way to my one can for every gun goal. Shooting unsuppressed is so uncivilized!
    Sure the noise complaints outside city limits, is a major factor for that.
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    I bought 2 commercial cans to start just because I didn't want to mess with building one. After researching form 1's, they seem pretty simple. I still plan on getting at least 1 or 2 more commercial cans and then start playing with a form 1 can. I want to cover all my bases with at least one commercial can and then do the form 1 as a secondary can to slap on my secondary rifles, if that makes sense.

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