FBI: Middle Eastern Men Intimidating U.S. Military Families

[BPTactical]

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... and I have extra Garands ...

I can bring my own now!

This is probably more important than recruiting stations (softer targets). But standing watch also IDs the house.

IMHO they are validating intel. And the only reason they would be so bold is if they know there won't be consequences. If they were to attack families (as ISIS has promised) I'm not sure what the response would be. There are people running the gov who think Muslims have legitimate grievances.

This would have impossible just a few years ago. I know what the response would been.

[rbeau30]

I'm not a friendly guy. So there is a very small chance of me talking to anyone on my property, unless they are a neighbor or someone I am expecting. I learned a short time ago, that just because you are on your property, folks can word things in a way to get you in trouble.

Menacing is a catch-all part of the criminal code. You do or say something and the folks that are unwanted on your property only have to say that they are in fear of imminent harm and things can quickly turn around not in your favor. Have something in your hand that the "victim" thinks would hurt them? Or are you PERCEIVED to have something in your hand? It is now a Felony.




Retreating to your home and not saying anything is what I would do.

[Irving]

I agree that they are validating info, the problem is that there won't be a next time to try to prevent anything. The individuals who've been contacted are already compromised and stand little chance of preventing a truck bomb through the living room window in the middle of the night a few months from now. Thus whole thing is extremely concerning to me and comes with a strong feeling of helplessness. I don't even know anyone involved and feel worried sick over them and their families.

I can't think of anything I could do that wouldn't require quitting my job and abandoning my own family.

[TheGrey]

Use your head. Take pictures, avoid answering any questions or giving definite answers, ask questions yourself, call for help. If there is an immediate threat as defined under C.R.S. then use the force necessary but until then, you have to play by the rules as well.

I believe you misunderstand. I was responding to someone that suggested this was just "talk."

I certainly don't need to be told to "use my head" when determining what is a threat and what isn't. As I stated, "There is plenty that can be done in response. It doesn't always have to come down to pulling out a hand cannon," which is also in response to the "What, some guy comes to talk to you and you shoot him?" remark.

[clublights]

I will say this ...

if they do decided to attack and they want to keep the same kid gloves that the .gov is using they better wait till after the next election .... Otherwise they are handing it to the republicans and the hardest nose war hawk guy we can find( Col Allen West anyone?)


The general public will scream for heads to roll .

[TheGrey]

I agree that they are validating info, the problem is that there won't be a next time to try to prevent anything. The individuals who've been contacted are already compromised and stand little chance of preventing a truck bomb through the living room window in the middle of the night a few months from now. Thus whole thing is extremely concerning to me and comes with a strong feeling of helplessness. I don't even know anyone involved and feel worried sick over them and their families.

I can't think of anything I could do that wouldn't require quitting my job and abandoning my own family.

There are some things that compromised individuals can do. It won't prevent a drone carrying explody things, but changing up one's routine, not posting their photos (or family members' pictures), don't put sensitive information on LinkedIn, setting up security cameras and establishing procedures with family members (if Sally is approached by strangers, she needs to go back inside the school and find her teacher. If husband is in trouble, make a reference to "Uncle Ernie.") Placing specific sized boulders/stones along the edge of your property looks decorative and is a deterrent for vehicles ending up in your living room.

[izzy]

There are some things that compromised individuals can do. It won't prevent a drone carrying explody things, but changing up one's routine, not posting their photos (or family members' pictures), don't put sensitive information on LinkedIn, setting up security cameras and establishing procedures with family members (if Sally is approached by strangers, she needs to go back inside the school and find her teacher. If husband is in trouble, make a reference to "Uncle Ernie.") Placing specific sized boulders/stones along the edge of your property looks decorative and is a deterrent for vehicles ending up in your living room.

You just reminded me of a house I drive by all the time. I want a wall like this around my house. Oh wait I don't actually have a house right now.

[Aardvark]

Tomahawks, and scalps!!

Would those scalps be head, or beards? Both? ...I think I've got enough Indian blood in me to do a decent scalping!

[Mercula]

Not ok. My blood pressure is rising just reading this.