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    CO-AR's Secret Jedi roberth's Avatar
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    Juror #17 confirmed on Chuck and Julie's show that one female juror in spite of overwhelming evidence would not budge from life in prison.

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    Without going into detail let me say I'm very close to this case-from within 10 minutes of it happening until yesterday. The population of Arapahoe County has changed greatly in the 30 years I've lived here. It's gone from being one of the most conservative counties in the state to one definitely more liberal. I do not fault Brauchler at all for his going for the death penalty-it wasn't his decision alone-though he's where the buck stops-nor was it taken lightly, I think we all can understand that.

    While disappointed in the outcome I do not fault the jury. Again looking at the population and the process in picking the jury when the time came I had hoped they'd be able to come to unanimous decision but I guess waking today I'm not surprised. The frustration we share here on this forum and decision that would've been rendered had we been the jury has become, I'm afraid, not the prevailing philosophy in this county.

    Had the crime taken place on the north side of Colfax, hence in Adams County, I wonder if the verdict would've been different. I look at the number 12 and see an interesting paradox-12 fatalities and 12 jurors. Obviously almost 100 others injured as well as the families/friends of the victims and the impact this horrendous act had on the responders, care providers, well this list is very long.

    I appreciate what the jurors went through and I'm thankful they didn't allow the defense to use the insanity angle. The fact that this did go through the trial the answers to many questions were provided, something that wouldn't have happened in a plea. I fully support George Brauchler and the staff of his office.

    We don't always agree on everything-that's human nature-but obviously we all agree that our community is better that this piece of shit will never walk any streets again. I may have oversimplified my thoughts here, not much sleep last night but I wanted to address this topic one final time. I'll leave this thread, probably won't look at it again-at least for awhile-but I also appreciate all the comments here.

    Please don't forget all those impacted by this crime and keep the victims in your thoughts.
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    Well said Doc
    The most important thing to be learned from those who demand "Equality For All" is that all are not equal...

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    Quote Originally Posted by roberth View Post
    Juror #17 confirmed on Chuck and Julie's show that one female juror in spite of overwhelming evidence would not budge from life in prison.
    Like most, I'm disappointed. And I'm wondering how many more lives will be lost because of the hold-out's activism as copy cats see Holmes' fate/notoriety. That is why I just can't respect the hold-out. It's putting emotion over what is necessary. Sometimes doing the right thing is hard, unpopular, and hurts the feels. But not doing the right thing is worse.

    Recent death sentences have been carried out in other states/cases for murdering just one person. We now have two cases of pure evil in CO (Dunlap, Holmes) and are unwilling/unable to create adequate disincentives. There are no shades of gray in these cases--they deliberately tried to murder as many innocent people as possible without a shred of doubt. And people still can't figure this out?!?!?!!!

    Oh, and guns rights... Well if we can't appropriately punish the evil bastards and send a message then we have to ban guns and everything else because we can't assign responsibility to someone who is "insane" or "grew up in a bad home."

    /rant

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