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    Soapy Smith
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    Default A little reminder to those of us that buy online/mail order

    Maybe I'm being paranoid and maybe it just serves as a reminder, but I thought I'd share to remind other folks.

    A couple of weeks ago, I bought a new pistol from a dealer. The dealer provided me with magazine parts kits as part of the purchase because the gun normally ships with magazines that hold more ammo than is legally allowed in Colorado. Wanting to play by the rules, I ordered plugs for the magazines online from Magblock so I could limit them to 15rd mags (and put to rest any concerns if I'm approached by the local sheriff while out shooting on public land). I bought the 10 pack and paid for priority mail shipping (2 day).

    I followed the tracking number on the USPS website, the package was supposed to arrive at my house last Thursday. After tracking the package, it was marked as "delivered". When I got home, I had three letters but no package. Sometimes the postal carrier will scan stuff and leave it in his truck (because he's late and doesn't want to get into trouble for not delivering it) so I figured I'd wait until Friday, but just in case, I called the USPS and opened a "case number" with them and was told I would get a call back within 72 hours (after waiting 30 minutes on the phone to get through). Friday delivery and still no package. Saturday, when the postman came by, I told him the situation and he gave me the direct line to my local post office - which isn't published on the USPS.com website. Still no response to the case I opened up Thursday evening.

    Monday comes around and I called the direct number and spoke to the manager - this is the kinda' cool part. When a mail carrier scans a package, the scanner records the GPS location of where the mail carrier scanned that package. The manager I spoke with looked up the GPS coordinates and told me the location basically giving me the address where the package had been incorrectly delivered (scanned) - same number address the next street over. He said he would send someone out there to try to get it back.

    Today, (Tuesday), I got home and still no package. I walked around the block and knocked on the door and asked the folks that lived there if they had received my package. A kid answered the door and went and immediately got it and turned it over. As I'm walking around the block and back home, I notice it had been opened and re-taped up. I open the package and the product is there, but there is no paperwork. Here's where the paranoid/lesson learned part comes in....

    When I got home I called Magblock and asked them what paperwork they normally send in the box. I was told they send a disclaimer, and instructions, and "no personal information". When I go back and look at the invoice they emailed me (a copy of it was probably in the box), I noticed the last 4-digits of my credit card are on it as well as my address.

    So the lesson learned -

    Someone a block away has my address, may have the last 4-digits of my credit card, and they know I own guns in the house (I live in Denver - it's not the best of neighborhoods). Luckily I have a couple of dogs, a nosy retired neighbor, and a good safe to keep things in the house nailed down.

    Next time, I'll have parts delivered to work and keep them in a sealed box until I get home. Thinking back on what I've bought before, these were just small plastic tabs that nobody would know what they're for (without paperwork) but I can't imagine having the same thing happen with an upper receiver or a rifle barrel or even commemorative coins.

    Just wish folks were more neighborly like back in the day. I mean seriously, they could have just as easily walked around the block and dropped off the package over the weekend without rummaging through it (I've done it multiple times for other neighbors).
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    Better check Craigslist in case your neighbor was in need of some extra ca$h
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    Next time tell the shipper you would like a signature required upon delivery tag.
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    If you work for a big company, they'll fire you if you send gun related packages to work. You probably don't, but just thought I'd mention something.
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    I would go back to that house, speak with an adult and request that paperwork. I then would cancel that credit card, and get a new one issued to you.

    The fact that they opened your package and have paperwork that may have compromising personal information when it was clearly addressed to you, in both name and address, is fully against the law and could be quite a persuading argument if they don't fork over what is yours.

    Perhaps a better way to go forward in the future would be to have packages delivered to your nosy retired neighbor's address, having it signed upon delivery.
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    Isn't opening someone else's mail a felony?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soapy Smith View Post
    Just wish folks were more neighborly like back in the day.
    I used to deliver automotive paint. I had a client who worked out of his huge garage in west Arvada. I went to the same numbered address, but on the wrong street accidentally. When I walked up the drive where three people were working outside, I asked if I had the right address. The women shouted up into the garage attic, "There's some guy here wanting an address and apparently we're information," in the most rude and bothered tone I could imagine.

    Being helpful/neighborly is apparently just a concept from the past now.

    Quote Originally Posted by jmg8550 View Post
    Isn't opening someone else's mail a felony?
    Intentionally, I believe it certainly is.

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    good reminder. If I think about it, I send items to my parents, they are almost always home.

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    I sent a box with 5 20rnd magazines to magpul for replacement. USPS never delivered the product to Magpul.

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