A little reminder to those of us that buy online/mail order

[Soapy Smith]

Next time tell the shipper you would like a signature required upon delivery tag.

I've had the usps and ups and FedEx deliver items with signature required. The nice thing about ups and FedEx is they understand people work for a living and have hours after 8am to 5pm where you can pick items up. With the usps I'm limited to Saturday's between 11am and 2pm.




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[Soapy Smith]

If you work for a big company, they'll fire you if you send gun related packages to work. You probably don't, but just thought I'd mention something.

Very true. I do work for a bigger company but there is no current policy (and why I mentioned I'd open the boxes later). Each company is different. When I worked at Qwest they allowed no firearm related stuff. When Centurylink bought Qwest the policy changed - upper management in Monroe, Louisiana likes to go duck hunting after work on occasion.


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[dustdevil]

I would go back to that house, speak with an adult and request that paperwork. I then would cancel that credit card, and get a new one issued to you.

The fact that they opened your package and have paperwork that may have compromising personal information when it was clearly addressed to you, in both name and address, is fully against the law and could be quite a persuading argument if they don't fork over what is yours.

Perhaps a better way to go forward in the future would be to have packages delivered to your nosy retired neighbor's address, having it signed upon delivery.

This is probably the most passive aggressive thing I have read in a long time. The post office misdelivered a package. No one is going to bring up felony theft charges on an accident. Going to the neighbors and "demanding" this that and another is not smart. All they will say is I don't have it. Instead of thinking that everyone should act like Rambo in all situations be a little realistic. They could have just as easily said "we don't have your package." The USPS would tell you to suck it and file an insurance claim.

And for your link thank you for the rebutting your own argument.

"However, the law cannot be applied if you did not recognize that the mail was not yours when you opened it. For example, if you received several items in the mail and were opening all the envelopes without paying particular attention to the addressee, it is conceivable that you could open mail that was not yours. Because you did not recognize the mail as belonging to someone else before you opened it, no crime has been committed.

Law Dictionary: What Is The Federal Law For Opening Mail Not Addressed To You? "

[TheGrey]

This is probably the most passive aggressive thing I have read in a long time. The post office misdelivered a package. No one is going to bring up felony theft charges on an accident. Going to the neighbors and "demanding" this that and another is not smart. All they will say is I don't have it. Instead of thinking that everyone should act like Rambo in all situations be a little realistic. They could have just as easily said "we don't have your package." The USPS would tell you to suck it and file an insurance claim.

And for your link thank you for the rebutting your own argument.

"However, the law cannot be applied if you did not recognize that the mail was not yours when you opened it. For example, if you received several items in the mail and were opening all the envelopes without paying particular attention to the addressee, it is conceivable that you could open mail that was not yours. Because you did not recognize the mail as belonging to someone else before you opened it, no crime has been committed.

Law Dictionary: What Is The Federal Law For Opening Mail Not Addressed To You? "

You may want to check your comprehension skills. The post office delivered the package to the wrong address. The people had the package for days, and instead of putting it back in their mailbox with a "wrong address" or "not at this address" written on it, they kept the package. And they opened it. And continued to keep it, after they realized the package did not belong to them. They kept the paperwork, which contained the OP's personal information.

Yes, mistakes are possible. Yes, they may not have realized the package was not addressed to them, but they would have certainly realized it upon discovering that a) it was not something they had ordered, b) it was not addressed to them, and c) it was not their package.

Nobody is suggesting anyone "go Rambo" - frankly, I can't see where my post even suggested such a thing. In this day and age, identity theft is quite real, and is often found in our own neighborhoods. Perhaps your view from Mayberry is a bit clouded?

Had you bothered to continue reading the link that I supplied, the very next sentence explained that one's responsibility AFTER opening mail that is not addressed to you matters a great deal. Let me save you the trouble of clicking:

"Although you may have opened someone else's mail unintentionally, what you do with it afterward is what really counts. Toss the mail in the garbage, and you have intentionally obstructed the delivery of that correspondence. That is a crime, and there may be consequences. The best practice is to write Return to Sender or note Wrong Address on the envelope and pop it into a mailbox. This way the letter can still eventually reach the intended recipient.

Law Dictionary: What Is The Federal Law For Opening Mail Not Addressed To You? "

[DenverDave]

I have had many problems with USPS recently. Aside from 10+ day delivery times with first class service more importantly I have ordered 3 replacement credit cards, non have arrived. Spoke with the bank, fed ex arrived as expected.


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[ben4372]

This is funny, and I want to make everyone that much more excited. I ordered something from Midway recently. They shipped it UPS with final delivery by the mailman. This is the slowest way possible, and evidently they way they ship when you chose the least expensive option. The package arrived in good shape, but had been resealed with tape that said.. "Resealed by USPS " or such. But it was retaped by them. Box didn't look abused, were they looking for un-shippable stuff, I don't know. Evidently nothing is private.

[spqrzilla]

I've ceased using the USPS entirely. Too many lost items that they refuse to pay out insurance for.

[th3w01f]

I've ceased using the USPS entirely. Too many lost items that they refuse to pay out insurance for.

The last one I had a problem with was a roll of ASE. They were shipped adult signature required and our lazy mailman signed it himself and stuck them in our mailbox (never came to the door, my wife was home all day). I only check the mail about once a week and I was in CA so when I got the notice that it had been signed for I thought it had been stolen. Spoke with the manager at the post office and it didn't sound like they saw a problem with him signing for peoples packages and leaving them in the mailbox.

[spqrzilla]

The local postmaster is more utterly useless than his staff.

[Irving]

We have mail problems in our neighborhood and find the above to be true.

Also, this thread has gone a.long time with zero references to a Russian mail-order bride.