Red Rocks CCP

[james_bond_007]

You can try to fight whatever you want at the gate.
My view:
The people taking your tickets have no authority to change the rules they were given by their management.
Getting a 'Supervisor' on the scene with the authority to change the rules, on the spot, might take a bit of time.
Most err on the side of caution... not what is right or wrong.

Bottom Line : If they don't want to let you and your items in...you will not get in. If you cause too much of a fuss, they will find some petty charge on which to haul you away hold you (disturbing the peace, etc.)

You will then have an option to take your case to court.
Court and lawyer fees are expensive.
There is no law which requires anyone to reimburse you and your expenses, if you are proven 'in the right', in CO, as far as I know.
Best chance, in my opinion, would be to unite with others and other groups willing to share the expenses of such litigation.
I would not want to incur the cost of litigation by myself, just to be 'right'. I can't afford it.

For me, if I really wanted to see the concert, it would not be practical to try and bring any prohibited items with me (like my totems ...see below), unless I was ready to forfeit them or take them back to my car and wait in line again.

If it were me, I'd make a few calls to the City and County of Denver, and to Red Rocks and see what they say.
As I mentioned above, I have the understanding the the laws of the City and Country of Denver prevail at Red Rocks.
I know that there are some Denver laws, with Denver maintaining Home Rule status, such as Open Carry and possession of >20rd mag limit, that preempt State law.

I'd decide which was more important: pushing the issue and possibly missing the concert or seeing the concert.

Please don't misunderstand me. I'm not saying that 'I believe CC should not be allowed in said venue'.
I'm saying, showing up at the gate and pushing the issue there is the wrong time and place to debate it.
Now, if I were a Sovereign Citizen, things would be different ...



Let us know what you find out ...

http://redrocksonline.com/concerts-e...ohibited-items

Concerts & Events - Prohibited Items

• Non factory-sealed beverage/liquid filled containers (including thermoses, bota bags or wine skins)
• Alcoholic beverages, marijuana or illegal drugs
• Glass bottles or aluminum/steel cans
• Laser pointers (will be confiscated & patron subject to ejection)
• Hard sided coolers
• Soft sided coolers larger than 10" x 7" x 7"
• Audio or video recording devices, professional cameras or cameras with removable lenses, selfie poles
• Weapons or items construed as weapons (e.g., guns, knives, sticks, fireworks)
• Totems of any type, make/model
• Bullhorns or noisemakers
• Aerosol cans (e.g., hairspray, sunscreen)
• Framed backpacks
• Confetti
• Tarps
• Animals (except service dogs)
• Skateboards or inline skates
• Personal property that is a potential hazard to others (e.g., chains, wallet chains or jewelry with spiked edges)
  
• Glass objects
• Remote controlled flying devices or UAVs (unmanned aerial vehicles)

For your safety and the safety of others, guests and their possessions are subject to inspection as condition of admittance. Please have your bags open and available for inspection. Smoking is only permitted in designated areas along the outside rail of the outside stairs. Smoking is strictly prohibited in the seating area of the amphitheater, including E cigarettes. Red Rocks Management reserves final decision on items brought into the venue.

[Baetis]

Dang! I should pay attention more. I bet that's going to be a great concert!

Hoping so!

[Baetis]

You can try to fight whatever you want at the gate.
My view:
The people taking your tickets have no authority to change the rules they were given by their management.
Getting a 'Supervisor' on the scene with the authority to change the rules, on the spot, might take a bit of time.
Most err on the side of caution... not what is right or wrong.

Bottom Line : If they don't want to let you and your items in...you will not get in. If you cause too much of a fuss, they will find some petty charge on which to haul you away hold you (disturbing the peace, etc.)

You will then have an option to take your case to court.
Court and lawyer fees are expensive.
There is no law which requires anyone to reimburse you and your expenses, if you are proven 'in the right', in CO, as far as I know.
Best chance, in my opinion, would be to unite with others and other groups willing to share the expenses of such litigation.
I would not want to incur the cost of litigation by myself, just to be 'right'. I can't afford it.

For me, if I really wanted to see the concert, it would not be practical to try and bring any prohibited items with me (like my totems ...see below), unless I was ready to forfeit them or take them back to my car and wait in line again.

If it were me, I'd make a few calls to the City and County of Denver, and to Red Rocks and see what they say.
As I mentioned above, I have the understanding the the laws of the City and Country of Denver prevail at Red Rocks.
I know that there are some Denver laws, with Denver maintaining Home Rule status, such as Open Carry and possession of >20rd mag limit, that preempt State law.

I'd decide which was more important: pushing the issue and possibly missing the concert or seeing the concert.

Please don't misunderstand me. I'm not saying that 'I believe CC should not be allowed in said venue'.
I'm saying, showing up at the gate and pushing the issue there is the wrong time and place to debate it.
Now, if I were a Sovereign Citizen, things would be different ...



Let us know what you find out ...

http://redrocksonline.com/concerts-e...ohibited-items

This is why I ask. I do not want to make a scene and will gauge it at the gate when I get there. I don't want to leave it in the car but will if it allows me to keep my anonymity, I will.

[jhood001]

I've gone to a lot of shows at Red Rocks. Around half of them weren't doing pat downs and wands. The last show I went to, Beck, had pat downs only. It resulted in me having to walk all the way back to my car to stow my firearm. I'm pretty confident I could have gotten my firearm through, but I didn't want to create a scene if they did find it.

Worse case - you just might have to do a bit of walking if their security is aggressive for that particular show.

[Baetis]

No pat downs or wands. Full EDC gear, light, CCP, extra mag, and knife. The only change I made was to go to a less than 3" knife due to Denver's stupid knife nonsense, just in case. Great show and I will be to Red Rocks again.

[ClangClang]

No metal detectors that I've ever seen. I've never been wanded either (out of 3 shows) but they've all been pretty benign. Avett Brothers, Lucero, Pretty Lights, etc. No music that's "prone" to violence. I can't even recall being patted down actually. The only time I've ever had an issue at the door was with an umbrella that got confiscated because it had a pointy tip. I guess they were afraid that it would put someone's eye out. There were dozens and dozens of confiscated umbrellas. Never patted me down around the waist at my 4 o'clock though....