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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    As do all of the other amendments. This opens up the path to felons owning guns though, as many of us believe they should be allowed.
    I agree that non-violent felons should be able to earn their rights back. Many who stay in the system will never earn that right so the majority will never be able to own firearms if the law were to change. But I have met several in my life and my line of work that should have earned that right back several times over.

    i also think this ruling is a second amendment win. I think it's a dangerous game to start selecting which constitutional rights apply to who at different times within our nation. I know it's already been said but government doesn't give or grant rights. The bill of rights were written to show which rights were God-given and could not be removed by government

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    Quote Originally Posted by cstone View Post
    IMO this is not an issue of capability but lack of national POLITICAL will to address the issue.
    I think this^ is the true root of the problem. Politicians and parties are trying to buy votes and everyone knows it's a bad thing for the future of our country, but whichever party caves first to give amnesty to all illegals will effectively guarantee that they win every future election with millions of additional votes (which have been conveniently distributed to many conservative, rural areas around the country).
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    I personally would not be worried about life long devotion to a party, let alone spanning over generations.
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