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    Quote Originally Posted by hollohas View Post
    Apparently it wasn't very many more than one. By all accounts, in stock guns were collected dust on Walmart shelves.

    http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...some-shotguns/
    Nothing in that link provides facts that they were dropped due strictly to low sales numbers. It's all hearsay and conjecture at best. I'm not talking to the causation so much as the outcome in my post anyway.

    People want to act like it's a non-story to 2A support and that's simply not the case. People freak out over proposed legislation that has ZERO chance of ever passing or coming into law and yet something like this happens that directly affects the average consumer or, perhaps more importantly, the would-be average consumer and people say good riddance. This community makes no sense to me sometimes and this is one of those. You can hate Walmart with the next guy but like it or not there were plenty of people shopping AR15's and just seeing them in someplace like Walmart helped our cause. When I would watch the Daily Show and Stewart would make a flippant comment about how 'assault rifles could be bought along w/diapers at Walmart' I would get a little warm fuzzy knowing that it infuriated those opposed to 2A and it served to help keep the general populace less inclined to be freaked out when they saw the mythical creature. If they're sold in every grocery store how scary could they be after all?

    If you're a supporter of 2A the largest retailer in the world not carrying the flagship of your cause is a big deal no matter how you slice it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jer View Post
    Nothing in that link provides facts that they were dropped due strictly to low sales numbers. It's all hearsay and conjecture at best. I'm not talking to the causation so much as the outcome in my post anyway.

    People want to act like it's a non-story to 2A support and that's simply not the case. People freak out over proposed legislation that has ZERO chance of ever passing or coming into law and yet something like this happens that directly affects the average consumer or, perhaps more importantly, the would-be average consumer and people say good riddance. This community makes no sense to me sometimes and this is one of those. You can hate Walmart with the next guy but like it or not there were plenty of people shopping AR15's and just seeing them in someplace like Walmart helped our cause. When I would watch the Daily Show and Stewart would make a flippant comment about how 'assault rifles could be bought along w/diapers at Walmart' I would get a little warm fuzzy knowing that it infuriated those opposed to 2A and it served to help keep the general populace less inclined to be freaked out when they saw the mythical creature. If they're sold in every grocery store how scary could they be after all?

    If you're a supporter of 2A the largest retailer in the world not carrying the flagship of your cause is a big deal no matter how you slice it.
    Absolutely agree with this! When the big scary black rifle, the machine gun people only see in movies, the tool used by psychos to commit "mass murder", is now sitting behind a glass case at your local Wally World, it all of a sudden isn't quite as scary as the non gun person thought. People are always talking about "de-sensitizing", well AR's in Walmart are a good example of that, in our favor. When the younger generation can no longer walk by and see the scary black rifle in person, it doesn't help our cause (think big picture).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jer View Post
    People freak out over proposed legislation that has ZERO chance of ever passing or coming into law and yet something like this happens that directly affects the average consumer or, perhaps more importantly, the would-be average consumer and people say good riddance.
    The former is a public entity, the latter is a private business. It's our job to speak up when our government proposes something we don't like. We have no such responsibility or obligation to do the same for a private business unless of course you're a shareholder.

    There may not be any "facts" supporting the idea this is purely based on sales, there are even fewer "facts" to support the notion this is political.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jer View Post
    Nothing in that link provides facts that they were dropped due strictly to low sales numbers. It's all hearsay and conjecture at best. I'm not talking to the causation so much as the outcome in my post anyway.

    People want to act like it's a non-story to 2A support and that's simply not the case. People freak out over proposed legislation that has ZERO chance of ever passing or coming into law and yet something like this happens that directly affects the average consumer or, perhaps more importantly, the would-be average consumer and people say good riddance. This community makes no sense to me sometimes and this is one of those. You can hate Walmart with the next guy but like it or not there were plenty of people shopping AR15's and just seeing them in someplace like Walmart helped our cause. When I would watch the Daily Show and Stewart would make a flippant comment about how 'assault rifles could be bought along w/diapers at Walmart' I would get a little warm fuzzy knowing that it infuriated those opposed to 2A and it served to help keep the general populace less inclined to be freaked out when they saw the mythical creature. If they're sold in every grocery store how scary could they be after all?

    If you're a supporter of 2A the largest retailer in the world not carrying the flagship of your cause is a big deal no matter how you slice it.
    This post is filled with an amazing amount of ignorance.

    First off, it's not hearsay nor is it conjecture that it was a business decision that led to Walmart halting sales of AR-15 rifles. You need look no further than the quote I posted from the Walmart spokesman for proof of that. You may not believe it...but that doesn't make it untrue and it sure doesn't make it hearsay or conjecture.

    In addition, Walmart only sold AR-style rifles in about 1/3 or their stores. So does that mean they only support 33% of the 2A? It's total nonsense to say a business does or doesn't support the 2A based on the products they sell. Walmart isn't dropping guns, they're dropping the AR-15 rifles.

    There was a fellow named Mike Burns who owned Park County Guns in Bailey when I first moved there. He refused to sell AK-type or SKS rifles or 7.62x39 ammo because he was shot in Viet Nam with one or the other (he wasn't sure) and lost a leg because of it. I can guarantee you his was a politically motivated decision and not a business or sales-related decision. Do you think he was anti-gun? I hardly think so.

    Seems to me there are a lot of pro-gun types here getting "freaked out" just like the leftists you describe by Walmart's decision. But it's a typical knee-jerk reaction from many who don't understand business. If you think ARs are a hot seller right now you haven't been paying attention. Why do you think you can buy lower receivers for $39? Why do you think AR rifles are the cheapest most of us have ever seen in probably the last 25 years? Because they're not selling, that's why. Walmart needs to move inventory. Quickly. When something doesn't sell they dump it. I have no problem believing that's the case with AR rifles. When a gun sits on their shelf it costs them money, plain and simple.

    And the bottom line is really about freedom...something you frequently profess to enjoy and wish upon others. Your attitude smacks of the elitists on the left that want things their way and rant and rave about it when they don't get it. Thank God there is still enough freedom in this country where the business decision to stop AR sales was made in house, by the Walmart executives charged with making those decisions and not by a gov't run even further amok. Freedom is exactly why Walmart was able to make this decision.

    You may not like the decision personally, and that's fine...opinions and all that. But to make stuff up to support your dislike is not a good way to make your point with others.
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