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    I must say though, my experience is a lot of officers are not vigilant for themselves. Examples:

    Casually walking down the street back to the office or car. Coat, Lunch box, Coffee in hand, by the time they could react, they are probably done.
    Hanging out at their "post" for the day, chatting with the other officer, assuming nobody is going to come in that office building and start shooting.

    I just think with the way things are, they would be a bit more attentive to their situation and surroundings.

    I do what I can when in the areas to be a third set of eyes, minor things have happened and I believe I'm as much involved as the others, if not more. (non leo employees)

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    After vague reports plus FBI, Texas Rangers etc. I smell organized crime hit i.e. MS13,cartel,OMG etc.

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    Well, as unfortunate as it is, I cannot say that I'm surprised when you have bullshit like this circulating around the internet:

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    This ignorant hatred is not new.



    We are better than this. Being led by those who hate or reacting with hatred toward those who hate will not improve our nation.
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    This killing of police officers is an outrage. I'm left dizzy with the number of reports over the past few weeks of officers being targeted. I am concerned- how much will this escalate?

    It's like my ears are growing points and my eyes aren't open wide enough. I'm trying to work on situational awareness without being paranoid. It's an awfully fine line. I find myself scanning each cop car I pass, hoping there won't be an event.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    Not to take away from this tragedy, but I had no idea that law enforcement could get a search warrant for a whole cell tower.
    Quote Originally Posted by KevDen2005 View Post
    I have actually never heard of that and it would be news to me as well. Maybe that's why they need federal help for something like that. But I really am not sure
    They've been doing it for years. It's how they caught our nieces murders, 15+ years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cstone View Post
    Don't read the stories.

    It isn't like things have changed drastically.

    Be safe.
    I suppose I could do that, not likely to happen though.

    I found some stats that support your assertion that things haven't changed drastically.

    http://www.nleomf.org/facts/officer-...data/year.html

    Must be the 24x7 news cycle giving us more information than before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo View Post
    They've been doing it for years. It's how they caught our nieces murders, 15+ years ago.
    I'm surprised they got a warrant. Read up on STINGRAYS and you'll find most agencies just use them regardless.
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    The problem with the criminal element declaring war on the police they are likely to get one. The problem with war in the streets, the collateral damage of any large scale conflict is extreme, the real problem one side cares very much about that aspect and the other does not.

    I sincerely hope this de-escalates and soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThunderSquirrel View Post
    I'm surprised they got a warrant. Read up on STINGRAYS and you'll find most agencies just use them regardless.
    it's along story , other than 1 of the killers had been caught and the "ring leaders" family member rolled over on him, to avoid being included as an accomplice . They wanted this guy sooner than later.
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