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    I don't think anyone is ever going to be busted with mags that have moved here unless it is an add on charge to another crime.

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    I got hot summers here. Looking for some place with seasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kidicarus13 View Post
    Unfortunately no. Thank you state representatives.
    the law does NOT prohibit bringing in mags from out of state as long as they were purchased before the July 2013 date and owned continuously.

    18-12-302. (2) (a) a person may possess a large-capacity magazine if he or she:
    (I) owns the large capacity magazine on the effective date of this section; and
    (II) maintains continuous possession of the large-capacity magazine.

    As for owning it prior to the ban date:
    18-12-302 (2) (b) if a person who is alleged to have violated subsection (1) of this section asserts that he or she is permitted to legally possess a large-capacity magazine pursuant to paragraph (a) of this subsection (2), the prosecution has the burden of proof to refute the assertion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DenverGP View Post
    the law does NOT prohibit bringing in mags from out of state as long as they were purchased before the July 2013 date and owned continuously.

    18-12-302. (2) (a) a person may possess a large-capacity magazine if he or she:
    (I) owns the large capacity magazine on the effective date of this section; and
    (II) maintains continuous possession of the large-capacity magazine.

    As for owning it prior to the ban date:
    18-12-302 (2) (b) if a person who is alleged to have violated subsection (1) of this section asserts that he or she is permitted to legally possess a large-capacity magazine pursuant to paragraph (a) of this subsection (2), the prosecution has the burden of proof to refute the assertion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DenverGP View Post
    the law does NOT prohibit bringing in mags from out of state as long as they were purchased before the July 2013 date and owned continuously.

    18-12-302. (2) (a) a person may possess a large-capacity magazine if he or she:
    (I) owns the large capacity magazine on the effective date of this section; and
    (II) maintains continuous possession of the large-capacity magazine.

    As for owning it prior to the ban date:
    18-12-302 (2) (b) if a person who is alleged to have violated subsection (1) of this section asserts that he or she is permitted to legally possess a large-capacity magazine pursuant to paragraph (a) of this subsection (2), the prosecution has the burden of proof to refute the assertion.
    Good info to have! Thank You.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    The cold doesn't affect anything. It is much more dry here, so you will have less issues with rust. I've never heard of a material that shouldn't be used here compared to other places.
    Except for whatever the finishes are on your carry pistols...............
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    Quote Originally Posted by BJones View Post
    Good info to have! Thank You.
    Just be sure that any standard capacity mags you bring don't have a manufacture date stamped on them post 7/1/13.
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    It's not just mags in Denver. You can transport an AR or AK through Denver, but can't own one. I am not sure of the exact law, but you'll want to check it out. I don't know if it applies to the county as well. I'm must suggesting that you check first!
    Oh, and in Denver city and county, you are paying taxes for the airport, mass transit, stadiums, etc. etc. etc. etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha2 View Post
    It's not just mags in Denver. You can transport an AR or AK through Denver, but can't own one. I am not sure of the exact law, but you'll want to check it out. I don't know if it applies to the county as well. I'm must suggesting that you check first!
    Oh, and in Denver city and county, you are paying taxes for the airport, mass transit, stadiums, etc. etc. etc. etc.
    Sec. 38-130. Assault weapons.

    (a) Legislative intent. The city council hereby finds and
    declares that the use of assault weapons poses a threat to the
    health, safety and security of all citizens of the City and County
    of Denver. Further, the council finds that assault weapons are
    capable both of a rapid rate of fire as well as of a capacity to
    fire an inordinately large number of rounds without reloading and
    are designed primarily for military or antipersonnel use.

    The city council finds that law enforcement agencies report
    increased use of assault weapons for criminal activities. This has
    resulted in a record number of related homicides and injuries to
    citizens and law enforcement officers. It is, therefore, the
    intent of the city council to place reasonable and necessary
    restrictions on the sale and possession of assault weapons while
    placing no restrictions on the right of citizens to use weapons
    which are primarily-designed and intended for hunting, target
    practice and other legitimate sports or recreational activities and
    the protection of home, person and property.

    (b) Definitions. The following words and phrases, when used
    in this section, shall have these meanings respectively ascribed to
    them:

    (1) Assault weapon. The general characteristics of an
    assault weapon may include the following features: A
    shorter length than recreational firearms; a folding
    stock; a modification of an automatic firearm orig-
    inally designed for military use; a greater rate of
    fire or firing capacity than reasonably necessary for
    legitimate sports, recreational or protection
    activities and shall include all firearms with any of
    the following characteristics:

    a. All semiautomatic action, centerfire rifles with a
    detachable magazine with a capacity of twenty-one (21) or
    more rounds.
    b. All semiautomatic shotguns with a folding stock or a
    magazine capacity of more than six (6) rounds or both.
    c. All semiautomatic pistols that are modifications of rifles
    having the same make, caliber and action design but a
    shorter barrel and no rear stock or modifications of
    automatic weapons originally designed to accept magazines
    with a capacity of twenty-one (21) or more rounds.
    d. Any firearm which has been modified to be operable as an
    assault weapon as defined herein.
    e. Any part or combination of parts designed or intended to
    convert a firearm into an assault weapon, including a
    detachable magazine with a capacity of twenty-one (21) or
    more rounds, or any combination of parts from which an
    assault weapon may be readily assembled if those parts are
    in the possession or under the control of the same person.
    f. Any weapon listed in subsection (h).

    (2) Fixed cartridge shall mean that self contained unit consisting of
    the case, primer, propellant charge and projectile or projectiles.

    (3) Magazine shall mean a box, drum or other container which holds and
    feeds ammunition into a semiautomatic rifle, shotgun or pistol.

    (4) Pistol shall mean a weapon originally designed, made and intended
    to fire a projectile (bullet) from one (1) or more barrels when
    held in one (1) hand and having:

    a. A chamber as an integral part of or permanently aligned
    with the bore or having a breech-loading chambered cylinder
    so arranged that the cocking of the hammer or movement of
    the trigger rotates it and brings the next cartridge in
    line with the barrel for firing; and
    b. A short stock designed to be gripped by one (1) hand and
    at an angle to and extending below the line of the bore(s).

    (5) Rifle shall mean a weapon designed or redesigned, made or remade and
    intended to be fired from the shoulder or hip and designed or
    redesigned or made or remade to use the energy of the explosive
    in a fixed cartridge to fire only a single projectile through a
    rifled bore for each single pull of the trigger and shall include
    any such weapon which may be readily restored to fire a fixed
    cartridge.

    (6) Semiautomatic shall mean a weapon which fires a single projectile
    for each single pull of the trigger which automatically chambers
    the next round for firing and which employs a magazine.

    (7) Shotgun shall mean a weapon designed or redesigned, made or remade
    and intended to be fired from the shoulder or hip and designed or
    redesigned and made or remade to use the energy of the explosive
    in a fixed shotgun shell to fire through a smooth bore either a
    number of projectiles (ball shot) or a single projectile for each
    pull of the trigger and shall include any such weapon which may be
    readily restored to fire a fixed shotgun shell.

    (c) Specific weapons not included. As used in this section, assault
    weapon does not include any of the following:

    (1) All weapons that do not use fixed cartridges, all weapons that were
    in production prior to 1898, all manually operated bolt-action
    weapons, all lever-action weapons, all slideaction weapons, all
    single- shot weapons, all multiple-barrel weapons, all revolving
    cylinder weapons, all semiautomatic weapons for which there is no
    fixed magazine with capacity of twenty-one (21) or more rounds
    available, all semiautomatic weapons that use exclusively en bloc
    clips, all semiautomatic weapons in production prior to 1954 and
    all rimfire weapons that employ a tubular magazine.

    (2) Any firearm that uses .22 caliber rimfire ammunition.

    (3) Any assault weapon which has been modified either to render it
    permanently inoperable or to permanently make it a device no longer
    defined as an assault weapon.

    (d) Supplemental provision. Except as specifically stated herein, the
    provisions of this section are independent of and supplemental to any other
    provisions of law, and nothing shall prevent a device defined as an assault
    weapon in this section from also being regulated under other provisions of law.

    (e) Possession of assault weapons unlawful. It shall be unlawful to
    carry, store, keep, manufacture, sell or otherwise possess within the City and
    County of Denver a weapon or weapons defined herein as assault weapons, except
    that this subdivision shall not apply to:

    (1) Any federal, state or local government agency or to any sworn
    members of said agencies acting within their official capacities.

    (2) Any assault weapon which is being used as a movie prop for any
    motion picture or television program which is being filmed in whole
    or in part within the City and County of Denver if, prior to such
    use, the police department is notified in advance in writing of the
    date, time, location, production schedule and days upon which such
    use shall take place and the type and serial numbers of the
    firearms.

    (3) The transportation of any assault weapon through the city by a
    nonresident who is in legal possession of an assault weapon or a
    person carrying a permit issued under subsection (f) for the
    purposes and under the conditions set forth in subsections (b)(2)
    through (b)(5), Revised Municipal Code.

    (f) Conditional exception. Any person over the age of twenty-one (21)
    years who obtained an assault weapon legally prior to the effective date of
    this section may obtain a permit to keep, store and possess said assault
    weapon if-

    (1) Said weapon is properly identifiable and contains its original
    serial number.

    (2) An application for a permit for each assault weapon is filed
    with the police department within sixty (60) days of the
    effective date of this section pursuant to such procedures as
    the department may establish. The application shall contain a
    description of the firearm that identifies it uniquely, including
    all identification marks and numbers, the full name, address,
    date of birth and fingerprints of the owner and the address
    where such assault weapon will be stored and such other
    information as the department may deem appropriate. The place
    of storage and possession shall not be changed without
    notification to the department of the proposed change in location
    and when said weapon will be transported. The department may
    charge a fee for registration not to exceed the actual
    processing costs of the department.

    (3) The department shall issue a permit which shall identify the
    weapon and where it is to be stored.

    (4) The information required for the registration and permitting of
    assault weapons shall be treated as confidential and shall not be
    made available to members of the general public. The council
    finds that the release of such information would constitute an
    unwarranted invasion of personal privacy and could endanger the
    life or safety of persons at the premises where an assault weapon
    is located. The information on a permit application shall be used
    by the city only for law enforcement purposes.

    (g) Sale or transfer unlawful. It is unlawful to sell or transfer
    possession of an assault weapon possessed pursuant to subsection (f) within
    the City and County of Denver.

    (h) Specific prohibited assault weapons. It is unlawful to carry,
    store or otherwise possess within the City and County of Denver any of the
    following weapons which are hereby declared to be assault weapons except
    as provided in and subject to all the provisions of this section:

    (1) All of the following specified rifles:

    a. Norinco, Mitchell and Poly Technologies Avtomat Kalashnikovs
    (all models).
    b. Action Arms Israeli Military Industries UZI and Galil.
    c. Beretta AR-70 (SC-70).
    d. CETME G3.
    e. Colt AR-15 and CAR-15.
    f. Daewoo K-1, K-2, Max 1 and Max 2.
    g. Fabrique Nationale (FN/FAL, FN/LAR and FNC. [sic]
    h. FAMAS MAS223.
    i. Heckler & Koch HK-91, H-93 [sic], HK-94 and PSG-1.
    j. MAC 10 and MAC 11.
    k. SKS with detachable magazine.
    l. SIG AMT, SIG 500 Series and SIG PE57.
    m. Springfield Armory BM59 and SAR-48.
    n. Sterling MK-6 and SAR.
    o. Steyr AUG.
    p. Valmet M62, M71S and M78.
    q. Armalite AR-180 Carbine.
    r. Bushmaster Assault Rifle (armgun).
    s. Calico M-900 Assault Carbine.
    t. Mandall THE TAC-1 Carbine.
    u. Plainfield Machine Company Carbine.
    v. PJK M-68 Carbine.
    w. Weaver Arm Nighthawk.

    (2) All of the following specified pistols:

    a. Action Arms UZI.
    b. Encom MP-9 and MP-45.
    c. MAC 10 and MAC 11.
    d. INTRATEC TEC-9.
    e. Mitchell Arms Spectre Auto.
    f. Sterling MK-7.
    g. Calico M-900.

    (3) All of the following specified shotguns:

    a. Franchi SPAS 12 and LAW 12.
    b. Gilbert Equipment Company Striker 12.
    c. Encom CM-55.

    (4) Other models by the same manufacturer that are identical to
    firearms listed in subdivisions (1), (2) or (3) except for slight
    modifications or enhancements, including, but not limited to, a
    folding or retractable stock; adjustable sight; case deflector for
    left handed shooters; shorter barrel; wooden, plastic or metal
    stock; larger clip size; different caliber provided the caliber
    exceeds .22 rimfire; or bayonet mount.

    (5) Firearms which have been redesigned from, renamed, renumbered or
    patterned after one of the listed firearms in subdivision (1), (2),
    or (3) or those described in subdivision (4), regardless of the
    company of production or distribution or the country of origin or
    any firearm which has been manufactured or sold by another company
    under a licensing agreement to manufacture or sell the identical or
    nearly identical firearms as those listed in subdivisions (1), (2),
    (3) or those described in subdivision (4) regardless of the company
    of production or distribution or the country of origin.

    (i) Specific magazine prohibited. It shall be unlawful to
    carry, store or otherwise possess a magazine which will
    hold or may be modified to hold twenty-one (21) or more rounds.

    (j) Penalty. Any person, firm or corporation, who is convicted
    of violating any provision of this section shall be punished by a fine
    of not less than one hundred ($100.00) or more than nine hundred
    ninety-nine dollars ($999.00) and a term of incarceration of not less
    than ten (10) days nor more than one hundred eighty (180) days.

    (k) Violation; disposition. Upon a conviction of violating any
    provision of this section, the weapon shall be confiscated
    and destroyed under section 38-120, Disposition of confiscated weapons.
    (Ord. No. 669-89, section 1, 11-6-89; Ord. No. 719-89, section 1, 11-27-89)
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    The Denver Assault Weapon law that Alpha2 referred to and kidicarus13 quotes has been revised. I believe the revision was done in 2007.

    This is the current Municipal Code

    Sec. 38-130. - Assault weapons.
    (a)
    Legislative intent. The city council hereby finds and declares that the use of assault weapons poses a threat to the health, safety and security of all citizens of the City and County of Denver. Further, the council finds that assault weapons are capable both of a rapid rate of fire as well as of a capacity to fire an inordinately large number of rounds without reloading and are designed primarily for military or antipersonnel use. The city council finds that law enforcement agencies report increased use of assault weapons for criminal activities. This has resulted in a record number of related homicides and injuries to citizens and law enforcement officers. It is, therefore, the intent of the city council to place reasonable and necessary restrictions on the sale and possession of assault weapons while placing no restrictions on the right of citizens to use weapons which are primarily designed and intended for hunting, target practice and other legitimate sports or recreational activities and the protection of home, person and property.
    (b)
    Definitions. The following words and phrases, when used in this section, shall have these meanings respectively ascribed to them:
    (1)
    Assault weapon shall include all firearms with any of the following characteristics:
    a.
    All semiautomatic action, centerfire rifles with a detachable magazine with a capacity of twenty-one (21) or more rounds.
    b.
    All semiautomatic shotguns with a folding stock or a magazine capacity of more than six (6) rounds or both.
    c.
    Reserved.
    d.
    Any firearm which has been modified to be operable as an assault weapon as defined herein.
    e.
    Any part or combination of parts designed or intended to convert a firearm into an assault weapon, including a detachable magazine with a capacity of twenty-one (21) or more rounds, or any combination of parts from which an assault weapon may be readily assembled if those parts are in the possession or under the control of the same person.
    (2)
    Fixed cartridge shall mean that self-contained unit consisting of the case, primer, propellant charge and projectile or projectiles.
    (3)
    Magazine shall mean a box, drum or other container which holds and feeds ammunition into a semiautomatic rifle, shotgun or pistol.
    (4)
    Pistol shall mean a weapon originally designed, made and intended to fire a projectile (bullet) from one (1) or more barrels when held in one (1) hand and having:
    a.
    A chamber as an integral part of or permanently aligned with the bore or having a breech-loading chambered cylinder so arranged that the cocking of the hammer or movement of the trigger rotates it and brings the next cartridge in line with the barrel for firing; and
    b.
    A short stock designed to be gripped by one (1) hand and at an angle to and extending below the line of the bore(s).
    (5)
    Rifle shall mean a weapon designed or redesigned, made or remade and intended to be fired from the shoulder or hip and designed or redesigned or made or remade to use the energy of the explosive in a fixed cartridge to fire only a single projectile through a rifled bore for each single pull of the trigger and shall include any such weapon which may be readily restored to fire a fixed cartridge.
    (6)
    Semiautomatic shall mean a weapon which fires a single projectile for each single pull of the trigger which automatically chambers the next round for firing and which employs a magazine.
    (7)
    Shotgun shall mean a weapon designed or redesigned, made or remade and intended to be fired from the shoulder or hip and designed or redesigned and made or remade to use the energy of the explosive in a fixed shotgun shell to fire through a smooth bore either a number of projectiles (ball shot) or a single projectile for each pull of the trigger and shall include any such weapon which may be readily restored to fire a fixed shotgun shell.
    (c)
    Specific weapons not included. As used in this section, assault weapon does not include any of the following:
    (1)
    All weapons that do not use fixed cartridges, all weapons that were in production prior to 1898, all manually operated bolt-action weapons, all lever-action weapons, all slide-action weapons, all single-shot weapons, all multiple-barrel weapons, all revolving-cylinder weapons, all semiautomatic weapons for which there is no fixed magazine with capacity of twenty-one (21) or more rounds available, all semiautomatic weapons that use exclusively en bloc clips, all semiautomatic weapons in production prior to 1954 and all rimfire weapons that employ a tubular magazine.
    (2)
    Any firearm that uses .22 caliber rimfire ammunition.
    (3)
    Any assault weapon which has been modified either to render it permanently inoperable or to permanently make it a device no longer defined as an assault weapon.
    (d)
    Supplemental provisions. Except as specifically stated herein, the provisions of this section are independent of and supplemental to any other provisions of law, and nothing shall prevent a device defined as an assault weapon in this section from also being regulated under other provisions of law.
    (e)
    Possession of assault weapons unlawful. It shall be unlawful to carry, store, keep, manufacture, sell or otherwise possess within the City and County of Denver a weapon or weapons defined herein as assault weapons, except that this subdivision shall not apply to:
    (1)
    Any federal, state or local government agency or to any sworn members of said agencies acting within their official capacities.
    (2)
    Any assault weapon which is being used as a movie prop for any motion picture or television program which is being filmed in whole or in part within the City and County of Denver if, prior to such use, the police department is notified in advance in writing of the date, time, location, production schedule and days upon which such use shall take place and the type and serial numbers of the firearms.
    (3)
    It shall be an affirmative defense to charges brought under this section that the transportation of an assault weapon:
    (a)
    Is through the city by a nonresident who is in legal possession of an assault weapon; or
    (b)
    Is by a person carrying a permit issued under subsection (f) and the transportation is for one (1) of the following purposes:
    i.
    In aid of the civil power when thereto legally summoned;
    ii.
    To a bona fide hunting trip for wild game, or to a legitimate sporting use of such weapon, including shooting matches or target trap or skeet shooting. All weapons carried for such purposes shall be unloaded;
    iii.
    While transporting such weapon to or from a place for sale outside the city or for repair. All weapons carried for such purposes shall be unloaded at all times;
    iv.
    As a member of the armed forces of a state or of the federal government while engaged in the lawful performance of duty;
    v.
    In conjunction with moving personal property, including such weapon, from an old residence to a new residence. All weapons carried for such purposes shall be unloaded at all times.
    (f)
    Conditional exception. Any person over the age of twenty-one (21) years who obtained an assault weapon legally prior to the effective date of this section may obtain a permit to keep, store and possess said assault weapon if:
    (1)
    Said weapon is properly identifiable and contains its original serial number.
    (2)
    An application for a permit for each assault weapon is filed with the police department within sixty (60) days of the effective date of this section pursuant to such procedures as the department may establish. The application shall contain a description of the firearm that identifies it uniquely, including all identification marks and numbers, the full name, address, date of birth and fingerprints of the owner and the address where such assault weapon will be stored and such other information as the department may deem appropriate. The place of storage and possession shall not be changed without notification to the department of the proposed change in location and when said weapon will be transported. The department may charge a fee for registration not to exceed the actual processing costs of the department.
    (3)
    The department shall issue a permit which shall identify the weapon and where it is to be stored.
    (4)
    The information required for the registration and permitting of assault weapons shall be treated as confidential and shall not be made available to members of the general public. The council finds that the release of such information would constitute an unwarranted invasion of personal privacy and could endanger the life or safety of persons at the premises where an assault weapon is located. The information on a permit application shall be used by the city only for law enforcement purposes.
    (g)
    Sale or transfer unlawful. It is unlawful to sell or transfer possession of an assault weapon possessed pursuant to subsection (f) within the City and County of Denver.
    (h)
    Reserved.
    (i)
    Specific magazine prohibited. It shall be unlawful to carry, store or otherwise possess a magazine which will hold or may be modified to hold twenty-one (21) or more rounds.
    (j)
    Penalty. Any person, firm or corporation who is convicted of violating any provision of this section shall be punished by a fine of not less than one hundred dollars ($100.00) or more than nine hundred ninety-nine dollars ($999.00) and a term of incarceration of not less than ten (10) days nor more than one hundred eighty (180) days.
    (k)
    Violation; disposition. Upon a conviction of violating any provision of this section, the weapon shall be confiscated and destroyed under section 38-120, disposition of confiscated weapons.
    (Ord. No. 669-89, § 1, 11-6-89; Ord. No. 719-89, § 1, 11-27-89; Ord. No. 1058-96, § 2, 12-9-96; Ord. No. 38-07, § 6, 1-22-07)

    You can't link directly to it but this link will get you to where you can get to the complete Code, then you can link to the Chapter, Article, and Division-
    http://library.municode.com/index.as...eName=Colorado

    Title II - Revised Municipal Code
    Chapter 38 - OFFENSES, MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS
    ARTICLE IV. - OFFENSES AGAINST PUBLIC ORDER AND SAFETY
    DIVISION 2. - WEAPONS AND MISSILES

    The current Code is not as restrictive as the old one.

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