Armslist - and people trying to sidestep BGC

[roberth]

Just what I heard from a credible source that deals with such things (as in they had a visit themselves).

Credible to you, not to me. This secret squirrel BS is stupid, why even bring it up if you're not going to say who it is.

[Zundfolge]

Just what I heard from a credible source that deals with such things (as in they had a visit themselves).

So is that dealers that have been questioned about their "mag kits" or "stings being set up for buying mags"?

[Dave_L]

Talking to a dealer, while waiting for my transfer, he said they got a visit from law enforcement to check on their kits. They didn't get in any trouble but it was made apparent that they better start following the law so no if/ands/but's, they are all going out as kits. He said "we've even heard of them approaching people in plain clothes as they leave shops and checking their bags for non-kit mags." I assume they're starting with the shops versus individuals.

I leave the name out of it as that's up to them if they want to chime in on it. It's a shop I go to often and know so it's not just "some dealer that was open for a transfer". :shrugs: I was just as surprised when they told me as they were when they got inspected.

[roberth]

Sorry for being blunt/rude Dave_L. Thank you for the additional info, could you tell us what county this shop is in?

[Dave_L]

It's ok. I know a lot of false information gets spread by "well I heard....". This certainly wasn't the case on this one.

I believe it's Arapahoe county.

[roberth]

It's ok. I know a lot of false information gets spread by "well I heard....". This certainly wasn't the case on this one.

I believe it's Arapahoe county.

Thank you. Arapahoe - I am not surprised, Denver or Boulder either. If you had said El Paso I would have been surprised.

[cstone]

An interesting topic.

Understand that what goes on in someone else's house or business is not within the control of the staff here. We will control what is discussed and done here on this board. This is our house and our community. We know that members of the media, law enforcement, and people from other states and countries have read posts on this board and we are also aware that those people will continue to read posts here on this board.

We will abide by all the laws as we understand them and we will help members conduct discussions on this board in accordance with those laws. For those members who are not willing to live with that guidance, please do not feel that you have to continue associating with us here.

As for the current laws, each of us has our opinions and many of those opinions are fairly obvious through reading past comments.

Be respectful. Be lawful. Be safe.

[brutal]

Talking to a dealer, while waiting for my transfer, he said they got a visit from law enforcement to check on their kits. They didn't get in any trouble but it was made apparent that they better start following the law so no if/ands/but's, they are all going out as kits. He said "we've even heard of them approaching people in plain clothes as they leave shops and checking their bags for non-kit mags." I assume they're starting with the shops versus individuals.

I leave the name out of it as that's up to them if they want to chime in on it. It's a shop I go to often and know so it's not just "some dealer that was open for a transfer". :shrugs: I was just as surprised when they told me as they were when they got inspected.

"Can I search your shopping bag?"

Not only no, but fuck no.

[spqrzilla]

I haven't heard of any stings whether LEO or private. However, Bloomberg has a history of doing such things and for that reason, one must consider the possibility that in some transaction that one might end up on the five o'clock news. And district attorneys are political animals and one can never predict when they will decide its to their political advantage to become aggressive in enforcement regardless of what they did yesterday.

And so when giving others advice, it would be irresponsible to say that violating the law is "safe".

[cstone]

"Can I search your shopping bag?"

Not only no, but fuck no.

Actually, the polite answer is; "Certainly. After you have properly identified yourself as a commissioned law enforcement official, and you have produced the properly executed search warrant issued by a federal, state, or local magistrate or judge."

Without both, the answer is: "Nice try skippy. Have a nice day. Buh bye."

Last time I checked, no one has trained a K9 to sniff for standard capacity magazines.