South Shooting Site :(

[Corey]

It was up there Saturday as well. I didnt have room for it after hauling the microwave, TV, Car battery, Election Campaign signs and other garbage. I sure hope it doesnt turn into Rampart.

I have a question on the clay's. Do those things dissolve after time. It really pisses me off all the shotgun shells people leave out there. I guess people assume that its ok because somebody will just come along and clean it later.

[Rampart Runner]

I have a question on the clay's. Do those things dissolve after time. It really pisses me off all the shotgun shells people leave out there. I guess people assume that its ok because somebody will just come along and clean it later.

The clays are mostly limestone (dolemite) which is not toxic. It does reduce soil alkalinity which might be good or bad depending on the soil and vegetation. Pines like acidic soil for example. The paint is water soluble and the black is pitch which is probably the worst component but tests have shown it not to be a serious source of aquatic toxicity.

Another words the clays are no big deal.

The plastic wads are another matter entirely. I reload 12 ga. slug and I always get my hulls AND wads. Shotgunners are the biggest slobs if I may generalize after 250 trips to a public range in the last 2 years.

[gnihcraes]

are you all talking about the same location as the accidental death recently? I thought that site was closed down? (or was it only temporarily?)

[Rampart Runner]

are you all talking about the same location as the accidental death recently? I thought that site was closed down? (or was it only temporarily?)

No sir.

Rampart Range was closed down July 21 after the negligent shooting which led to a death. Rampart was a real range with benches and stands for spotting scopes and a dedicated shotgun area.

The south site has no benches, coverings, or anything and the general area also has primitive camping sites.

[JARVIS]

It is the simple rule of the mountains - pack out what you pack in - " leaving something for the next guy to shoot" is the lazy mans cop-out. If it keeps up like this it'll look like west virginia around here in no time.

[Ranger]

It is the simple rule of the mountains - pack out what you pack in - " leaving something for the next guy to shoot" is the lazy mans cop-out. If it keeps up like this it'll look like west virginia around here in no time.

Amen brother! I don't use either of the two "official" sites, I have a couple dozen that I use around the mountains and spend the whole next morning after camping just cleaning up other peoples crap and building the firepit to be safer. These jackasses that leave their crap around is disgusting but the pinhead that leave their casings and hulls are real asswipes because then other folks automatically label shooters as polluting the mountains.

I won't take much for the tree huggers to close a really nice spot. Frankly, not being much of a tree hugger, I agree with them - if people can't shoot responsibly then the site shouldn't be used as a range. I've been considering taking my Bronco up to the fall river area and cleaning up some campsites (they have already closed half of it because of dipshits leaving their garbage).

[Rampart Runner]

Went to the south site this mornin'. It looked very clean.

I picked up some MDF boards "left behind for so someone can shoot them" and less than a half a bag of trash consisting mostly of wads, hulls, and unpoliced steel cases. There was one massive slab of particle board about 1" thick and about 2' x 4' that I left till someone breaks it into more manageable sized chunks.

I measured off and fluorescent painted 20 yd. lines out to 100 yds. as well as a 25m (82ft) compass. These were for my own use and are not obtrusive.

No one else came to shoot but a couple of vehicles went on up 343.

And since it was so desolate I went and shot at 200 and then 250 yds. btw the sign for 343 that is just up the fork where the road goes off over the hill, is almost exactly 250 yds. to the berm farthest from the highway. You can't shoot from the sign if there is anyone else around.

I did not drive up 343...does anyone know if there are longer distance ranges further back? my 7.62x54r is still punching through my mild 1/2" steel plates

I mostly went to shoot my NM M14 that I received as a gift a few weeks ago. It shoots great but I really missed having other shooters to shoot the bull with like I always did at Rampart. I hope I can make it to the next group shoot.

RR