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    You guys are all wrong. I know for a FACT that Potus said repeatedly that we'd be saving over 2500 bucks per year. AND, if you liked your doctor, you could keep your doctor. Now, mind you, MY doctor retired early when this $h!t hit the fan. So, maybe not me, but I'm sure all of you can keep you doctor.

    Y'all just keep voting for Santa Clause. After all, he won the Democrat Debate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HBARleatherneck View Post
    Our kids have always gone to a Doctors office that took our ChampVA insurance. Basically these are doctors that take medicaid, government type insurance. Since this all started we have had a heck of a time finding a new doctors office for my kids. Almost everyone around here stopped taking government insurance. My wifes Doctor quit and retired early and my kids doctor did the same thing.
    Can you talk some of your older kids into becoming docotrs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HBARleatherneck View Post
    Our kids have always gone to a Doctors office that took our ChampVA insurance. Basically these are doctors that take medicaid, government type insurance. Since this all started we have had a heck of a time finding a new doctors office for my kids. Almost everyone around here stopped taking government insurance. My wifes Doctor quit and retired early and my kids doctor did the same thing.
    More & more are either leaving practice OR have this notice in their newspaper ads. WE DO NOT ACCEPT INSURANCE. I told the sposue screw it. Let the IRS penalize you next year.

    The true believers in the comment section of the denverpost are blaming Gardner the the R's for cutting funding and or touting how much they've saved since Ocare started
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skip View Post
    Looked into that. Cost sharing <> insurance. And I think it's just a matter of time before it gets shut down.

    That plan has a catastrophic coverage at $125K. That would bankrupt us.
    We have the "gold" plan plus the "Brother's Keeper" which is unlimited and costs my wife and I $300/mo plus $50/quarter (which is for the "Brother's Keeper" catastrophic plan).

    As for getting shut down, it was specifically carved out of the ADA so it won't be easy for them to get rid of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo View Post
    More & more are either leaving practice OR have this notice in their newspaper ads. WE DO NOT ACCEPT INSURANCE.
    The other twist is that they setup 'concierge programs' where you have to spend thousands a year for the privilege of being a patient. You still have to pay for each visit.

    Where's the incentive to become a doctor when the government sets prices?
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    Ok, so now what???
    I just paid my premium and that is what we have!
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    If I get really sick, I'll seek treatment in Mexico. Way cheaper. Plus, if I am dying, I'll just spend it all on hookers and blow. I have already suffered enough...

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    I work at a company that employs like 20k in the US alone. My family plan with damn near the most extensive plan I could pay for was just under $180 a month. It's going up to around $300 next month. He really is giving the people what they want! The lazy ones are getting a better deal than I am! Socialism works! Wait...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calculated View Post
    I work at a company that employs like 20k in the US alone. My family plan with damn near the most extensive plan I could pay for was just under $180 a month. It's going up to around $300 next month. He really is giving the people what they want! The lazy ones are getting a better deal than I am! Socialism works! Wait...
    We pay about $500 for terrible coverage from the exchange for our family. Much better coverage will be about $260 a month through my employer. I can't wait to get off the exchange plans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    We have the "gold" plan plus the "Brother's Keeper" which is unlimited and costs my wife and I $300/mo plus $50/quarter (which is for the "Brother's Keeper" catastrophic plan).

    As for getting shut down, it was specifically carved out of the ADA so it won't be easy for them to get rid of it.
    So where does that leave someone like me, who is unable to follow spiritual guidelines? I know i'll ask them to make the spouse and i a cake. Then go to court
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