Guns in Israel

[Doc45]

Here's an interesting article following up on the uptick in attacks in Israel and how it really is in Israel to get a permit for and carry a firearm. I'm not in agreement with everything in here (is anyone ever? lol) but it does shed some light on the process:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...2fc_story.html

[speedysst]

So Americans with guns are "cowboys" but Israelis with guns are just protecting themselves against attacks. Yeah.

[roberth]

So Americans with guns are "cowboys" but Israelis with guns are just protecting themselves against attacks. Yeah.

Leftist drivel.

Israeli applicants must submit paperwork, military records and medical reports, and must justify their need to carry a weapon. Approval takes 30 days. Aresident of Tel Aviv will not be given a permit, though residents of a Jewish settlement in the West Bank will be. So will retired army officers, former police officers, firefighters, ambulance technicians, special forces vets, licensed public transportation drivers and residents of militarily strategic buffer zones, as well as those who live or work in Jewish settlements in East Jerusalem — including the Old City — and the West Bank.

[Irving]

See guys? Even in Israel only police, military, and bus drivers need guns.

[brutal]

Moshe Fidler, a retired undercover police detective, lives in Jerusalem and always carries his sidearm, a Glock 21-C, which he called the “limousine of handguns.” He also did not think that widespread permitting of guns was the solution, even though in civilian life he fired the weapon to scare off Palestinian rock throwers.

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Moshe Fidler, a retired undercover police detective, lives in Jerusalem and always carries his sidearm, a Glock 21-C, which he called the “limousine of handguns.” He also did not think that widespread permitting of guns was the solution, even though in civilian life he fired the weapon to scare off Palestinian rock throwers.

Well, it is long like a limousine.

When will people learn if they don't give up their guns in the first place they never have to face these kinds of situations...

[cstone]

Israel is not the USA. I am sure this comes as a surprise to some, but I am unaware of any law or constitutional right in Israel that protects free Israeli citizen's rights to possess firearms.

The Washington Post is once again using the crisis du jour in Jerusalem to point out the sad plight of the Palestinians; all while making a veiled argument for "common sense" gun legislation in the USA. USA compared to Israel is like apples to orangutans.

On another note, for those who are interested in my take on Jerusalem: Luke 19:41-44 NIV

Be safe.

[ray1970]

What cstone said is spot on.

In the U.S. owning firearms is a right of the people specifically spelled out in our Constitution.

In Israel owning a firearm isn't a right. It's a privilege.

I did read that Israel is loosening it's restrictions on gun ownership to get more guns on the streets to help deal with the recent Palestinian attacks against its citizens.

Wonder if our government would be more likely to support our 2nd ammendment rights if people were targeting and killing our citizens at random on the streets here?

[Dave_L]

if people were targeting and killing our citizens at random on the streets here?

Um...that happens every day.

[jhood001]

Wonder if our government would be more likely to support our 2nd ammendment rights if people were targeting and killing our citizens at random on the streets here?

Probably not, but the threat from our southern border is real. Mexican citizenry are not our enemy, but their country's organized crime and corrupt government definitely are.

If any of you have time, read the works of Charles Bowden (who recently passed). Our fight for our southern border may not be religious in nature, but it will be just as fierce as any religious conflict in the near future.

Revenues for drug trafficking in Mexico has exceeded revenues for oil over the last 3 years. Mexico's entire economy is dependent on trafficking now. And those running the show will press and fight to maintain that.

I believe that we'll be facing the same security issues as Israel in the coming years. I hope that isn't the case, but border states (New Mexico for example) are quickly rising in their murder rate and violent crime per capita.

I wouldn't say that it is exactly fair to compare our border issues to Israel's, but I believe it is going to get bad before it gets good. Money is every bit as powerful of a god as Allah.