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[Honey Badger282.8]

lets be honest....as lovers of freedom the last thing in the world we need is a Constitution convention. Do you remember that 50% + of the country voted for Barry twice? We would almost guaranteed lose the 2nd ammendment. Can you imagine the troubles we would have after that? I would love to see the 14th ammendment repealed but, I would settle for it being severely infringed like they have done to the second.

The requirements for both proposing (2/3 of states) and ratifying (3/4 of states) amendments via convention exceed Obamas popular vote. Despite the GOP controlling 31 state legislatures and splitting 8 there probably wouldn't be enough support for any hot button issues.

[HBARleatherneck]

there are alot of flakes though. I wouldnt want to chance it thats for sure. Can you imagine the money they would spend and lies they would tell to get uneducated people to swing the wrong way.

[TheGrey]

You can trace back the liberalization of our country to the passing of the 19th Amendment. Repeal it. Or go back to the idea that only property owners/tax payers can vote - must have skin in the game.

Say, that's a swell idea. In fact, we could just look to ISIS as an example of the fine, fine civilization they have- mostly because they keep those females on a very short leash. If they get out of line, well, since they're lesser types and really don't have the same rights as real people, it's simply easier to punish them, get rid of them, and/or replace them. Because men have always known how to run things in the most expedient, efficient way, never having made mistakes or been the cause of any difficulty. Not like those second-class citizens. Hell, ever since Eve started causing problems, them uppity wimmin have been just sticking their noses into business that they shouldn't be. They can't comprehend such complex stuff as politics; their ideas are all different and that's bad, right? Their little button heads just can't wrap around things like that. Imagine how much money would be saved if resources weren't wasted on them! They think because they have education, that their opinions actually matter! Can you believe it? Just because they make up about half the population, have made just as many sacrifices as the men in founding this country, and have been a part of life from the beginning...well, we all now they're just a weird combination of adults with the comprehensive capabilities of a child. They really don't deserve the freedoms. It hasn't even been 100 years that they've had the right. I'm sure they won't miss that teeny little amendment.

Yeah...just repeal it. Should be simple enough.

[DavieD55]

Excellent post!

To the OP, honestly, i think you are one of the types of people that is unraveling the Republican party. Namely a social liberal and a financial conservative. I would argue that you are not a "firm supporter" of the founding principles of the constitution however. When Federal Government ignored state rights and passed several laws which you likely support, the constitution was violated and continues to be violated more and more every day. I am not being critical of your stances, they are yours and your right to have. But some of them are counter to the founding principles of the Constitution. The constitution is not sacred and must be supported in whole or nothing, but, at least today, it is still "assumed" as the law of the land even though many aspects of it are being violated.

Gay marriage is a farce. When the congress passed the "defense of marriage act", or even before when they gave married couples preferential treatment, the constitution was violated. Gay marriage is a platform that, from the legal side, seeks to place same sex couples on the same footing as traditionally married couples. Newsflash...marriage is NOT in the constitution and it is NOT enumerated as a protected right. Furthermore, the jurisdiction for marriage is at the state level, NOT the Federal level under the constitution. So passing a law to right the perceived inequality created by unjust laws and regulations is still an illegal law. We just have no politicians willing to call a spade a spade and fight for state rights to return the issue of marriage to the state level. America has tried to legislate morality and export democracy by force. Even if I agree with the "goals" the delivery method has been wrong way too often. The reaction of late has been to legislate amorality. It is all surface level bandaids refusing to deal with the root cause. You can not force a man to be good...you can only bring to bear penalties for evil which harms another person or their property. A lot of this blame lies in legalism in the American church, which when it fails to effect positive change, is angered and attempts to force change through legislation. It is a history lesson that humans refuse to learn as a majority.

Abortion is a moral issue. If you think life is valuable then you have to make a choice. Does life start when a human is conceived, has a brain wave, has a heartbeat. leaves the mothers body, or when it can fend for itself. There is no doubt that a baby inside the womb is living and is also dependant on the mothers body. But to you who think humans have no soul, then why can we not kill the guy who cuts us off in traffic? I can shoot the deer on the side of a hill and a doctor can kill a baby in the womb. Is any human who can not speak or fight for their rights okay to kill? If you believe humans have a soul, when does that soul "arrive" in a human. Yes, I believe abortion is murder and yes I believe it is wrong and yes I believe every life taken by men without moral justification grieves the creator of those lives. To force me to pay for murder, how does that jive with the Constitution? It does not!

Marijuana is a plant, like tobacco, peyote, coca. What we, as men do with it is a moral issue as well. I do not think alcohol is wrong even though it is made by men from agricultural products, but I do believe that the effects that alcohol creates in some people are wrong. I do not believe that any American should have to pay for the penalties of another's misuse or abuse of drugs or alcohol. However, the insurance and health care industries spread those costs out to me and take money out of my pocket to pay for other peoples lack of control, misuse and abuse. When the law protects me from other people's stupidity instead of forcing me to pay for it, then I think that there can be a common ground for a reasonable discussion.

Illegal immigration, yep, it is wrong. I do however think there is a need for immigration reform. I believe I am fortunate to have been born into the greatest (not perfect) country on the planet. What grieves me is the balls to the wall path to destroy America. There are people voluntarily leaving America (on both sides) because of their disdain for what it has become. The PC movement to let people hold onto their loyalty to another country while letting them into America is creating two classes of immigrants. Those who love America and vow allegiance to America as a country and want to prosper both themselves and America, and those who come only for the benefits but despise the foundation of our Country.

When it comes to 1st and 2nd amendment "rights" those have been infringed. However, America allowed and ushered in those laws which violate the constitution. Tell me how we can roll back all laws related to marriage (regardless of sexual orientation), guns, etc. and get back to the constitution and I am all ears...I just do not think it is possible in the current climate.

[davsel]

Excellent Post!

Say, that's a swell idea. In fact, we could just look to ISIS as an example of the fine, fine civilization they have- mostly because they keep those females on a very short leash. If they get out of line, well, since they're lesser types and really don't have the same rights as real people, it's simply easier to punish them, get rid of them, and/or replace them. Because men have always known how to run things in the most expedient, efficient way, never having made mistakes or been the cause of any difficulty. Not like those second-class citizens. Hell, ever since Eve started causing problems, them uppity wimmin have been just sticking their noses into business that they shouldn't be. They can't comprehend such complex stuff as politics; their ideas are all different and that's bad, right? Their little button heads just can't wrap around things like that. Imagine how much money would be saved if resources weren't wasted on them! They think because they have education, that their opinions actually matter! Can you believe it? Just because they make up about half the population, have made just as many sacrifices as the men in founding this country, and have been a part of life from the beginning...well, we all now they're just a weird combination of adults with the comprehensive capabilities of a child. They really don't deserve the freedoms. It hasn't even been 100 years that they've had the right. I'm sure they won't miss that teeny little amendment.

Yeah...just repeal it. Should be simple enough.

Men and women are different. Always have been, and always will be.
Men and women are better at different things.
That is the way it was designed and intended - across the animal kingdom if you want to take religion completely out of it.
Feminism has turned these differences on their head and our society as a whole has suffered because of it.
Let women be women with all that they excel at, and let men do what men do best.
It has now gone so far out of whack that you can pick and choose what gender you want to be? Complete nonsense.
Our civilization will pay the price for such stupidity.

Just to be clear, musloids don't treat women properly in any way. Islam is an abomination to civilization.

[Irving]

Men and women are different. Always have been, and always will be.
Let women be women with all that they excel at, and let men do what men do best.
It has now gone so far out of whack that you can pick and choose what gender you want to be? Complete nonsense.
Our civilization will pay the price for such stupidity.

Just to be clear, musloids don't treat women properly in any way. Islam is an abomination to civilization.

No one should even have to address this post, but after that trainwreck of foolishness and embarrassment which is the Trump video thread, I figured I'd bettter at least say something. It is laughable to say "let women be women with all that they excel at," while at the same time implying that you get to decide what women are best at by removing their right to vote.

There is no creative way for you to express that you think women are too dumb to vote, without anyone with a pulse being able to see right through it. Save yourself the trouble and just be honest.

[ZERO THEORY]

Things I've learned in this thread:

-Groupthink is the only true form of Conservatism/Republicanism. If you have any sort of differentiation from the establishment's women=stupid, abortion=murder, "Mexicans"=criminals, gays=sub-human ideology, you're what's wrong with America.

-No one knows the difference between Wahhabi and Salafist sects of Islam and the hundreds of millions of Asian, European, American, and Pacific Muslims who have absolutely no interest in beheadings, jihad, or women's oppression

-The 19th amendment should be repealed. Because only male land owners should have a say in what goes on. You know, like in Afghanistan. Or 17th century England.

-The 14th amendment should be repealed. That uppity negro Obama has broken his oath, so all Black Americans should suffer as punishment. That'll teach 'em!

What else am I missing?

[HBARleatherneck]

the 14th ammendment no longer has any bearing on black folks. Today it means anchor births and birth tourism. Yes, I have problem with that. And if only land owners voted I dont see how it could hurt. Male or female, if you own land. (yes, we can say your .002 acre lot is land). Why should people who have no skin in the game get to vote? Im listening if you have a reason why they should be allowed to vote.That is my opinion only. (of course I have no problem with conscripted service either)

While I agree that women and men are very different, and I hate to see the modern world try and make males and females out to be the same, I dont see why women shouldnt vote. I believe we are equal....but different.

I also dont think all "Mexicans" are criminals. I believe many, many places in the world suck. And I have been to many shitholes while in the Marine Corps.
I think people want to come here for a better life. Well, I am 100% against people coming here without documentation. We need to know who and how many are coming. We need to know or be reasonably sure you are not a criminal (yet), we need to know you are not spreading contagious diseases. We need to make sure the economy and infrastructure can handle the numbers.

I think the republican party is every bit as bad as the democrat party.
I hate all politicians regardless or party affiliation, race, creed, religion or color. They are all evil.

See you dont really know us all.

[HBARleatherneck]

I can accept that version of taxpayers Foxtrot. If you arent paying in, you dont vote. Better than where we are now.

[MarkCO]

“When the people find that they can vote themselves money that will herald the end of the republic.”

― Benjamin Franklin