What am I?

[Bailey Guns]

You know, the same way early Englishmen illegally immigrated here to escape oppression.

Really? So they were violating our immigration laws when there wasn't even a country here? No...it's not the same thing.

[ray1970]

we could run county jail chain gangs.

I'd go for that.

Of course, technically, that might still mean there would be quite a few Mexicans working the fields.

[Jamnanc]

IT IS A WORK ETHIC PROBLEM GOOGLE "PROTESTANT WORK ETHIC", we all want what's best for our kids. The concept that working a shovel, or saw, or hammer, is a bad thing is ingrained into all but the "redneck" community. Everything costs more when labor costs more.

Close the borders, stop paying people not to farm, stop monetizing debt, let some hardship come to those not willing to work, accept that we aren't equal, except under the law, and let the market do its thing. I don't disagree with the last four posts, but we as a nation need to accept that this will be painful. Programmers will be plumbers, salesman will pick beans, and housing and commercial prices will go up.

[HBARleatherneck]

the problem is also.

these stats are from the US census

1900
Rural Americans 60.4%
Urban Americans 39.6%

1990
Rural Americans 26.4%
Urban Americans 73.6%

everyone left the farm for an easy city life. now we need to import workers.

by that I mean people want a job doing no manual labor and only non physical work.

[Ah Pook]

OP sounds Libertarian. Yes, I agree with most of what he said.

As said before, I have an equal disdain for both of the ruling parties. Neither speaks for me or most of the people I know (both bleeding hearts or knuckle draggers).

Immigration has become such a hot button. It's nothing new. Letting people work in the U.S. has become harder. There are jobs that "our" people will not do. We have had "open" borders for years with little problems. Why is it now a problem? I'm not talking drugs and gangs. Those are our (as a nation) own creation.

Come to Boulder, or any front range town, and walk into any fast food joint. I doubt you will see a gringo behind the counter.

How any white people showed up for jobs, at Swift, after the immigration stings a few years ago? Swift brought in Samalies. But the welfare roles are growing.

A woman can choose to defend herself with a firearm but making a choice about her own body/life is taboo?

People fall down and need a hand getting up. That does not equate into a lifelong lifestyle.

At least the govt, in the '30s, was smart enough to figure out prohibition didn't work. Why is it so hard today?

Keep your hands off my rights and out of my bedroom and we will get along. The larger the govt, the more it needs to feed.

"Control is controlled by it's need to control."
William S. Burroughs

[Calculated]

While if I had to choose I'd go conservative, I agree with what you've said Ray. I don't care what other people do with their bodies and lives as long as it doesn't affect me, and there's very few situations where that happens. I want my son to grow up to be whatever he wants to be, and I want to live my life without being told what I can and can't do. If you're pulling your own weight in society, you should be free to make your own decisions. This is America for fuks sake. It really seems like there's no voice for the average man in politics or government, and it's a shame..

[OtterbatHellcat]

I'm pretty much where you're at, Ray.

I wasn't when I was younger, but I am nowadays.

[Jer]

So, it seems my opinions and ideology vary depending on the subject matter. I've always kind of considered myself a very liberal conservative if that makes any sense.

I don't believe government should tell people how to live. I believe hard work and ambition should be rewarded. I don't believe in free handouts for those who lack in the hard work or ambition department. I'm a firm supporter of my country's constitution and the principles on which it was founded.

But....

I also believe in gay marriage, the legalization of marijuana on a federal level, and I'm pro-choice when it comes to abortion. I also am very open minded when it comes to illegal immigrants. I feel they serve a valid role in our society.

Oh, and for the record, I don't partake in marijuana or participate in homosexuality and I'm not an immigrant. And I always vote Republican because most of the candidates usually make more sense than their Democratic counterparts. I've always found third party candidates who's ideas and beliefs were in line with mine but have always realized a vote for them wasn't really a viable or realistic option.

Sounds nearly identical to most of my opinions on those topics & I think I most closely identify w/the Libertarian party although I hate being labeled. If you insist on labeling me I prefer American. I want to make up my mind on individual topics on my own as they come & not feel like I have to follow what a group thinks. That shit is lame.

[jhood001]

Sounds nearly identical to most of my opinions on those topics & I think I most closely identify w/the Libertarian party although I hate being labeled. If you insist on labeling me I prefer American. I want to make up my mind on individual topics on my own as they come & not feel like I have to follow what a group thinks. That shit is lame.

But, but, but.... what will you do without a party? How will you ever be heard? How will you possibly move through life without fear if you don't have others who share your exact ideals?

Your solitary stance terrifies me. But keep it up long enough and some of us might become brave enough to follow.

FREEDOM is the only 'party'.

Great post.

[OtterbatHellcat]

Librublicans?

lol