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    Quote Originally Posted by hatidua View Post
    Or maybe the:

    -gun people
    -farm people
    -oil people
    -retired people
    -golf people
    -restaurant people
    -micro brewery people
    -etc

    Some people like increasing the size of government and increasing taxation at every opportunity.

    Some of us don't.
    If you aren't buying pot, it's not your money that is sitting in that $66 million. If you are buying pot then I understand caring about how that money is spent, because it's your money. If it's not your money, then what do you care how it's spent? Not your money, not your business.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo View Post
    I care since the .gov deserves NO EXTRA MONIES for anything other than the people it belongs to. IF you truly believe so at least some of that money will go to something useful.
    You're part of the PROBLEM.
    Has anyone seen improvements on our roadways since that FEE was tacked on to vehicle registration?? Cleaner air / skies, since Emissions were forced on us??
    I'm not going to assume how you voted on the recreational bill that passed, however I can say if you voted against it, I understand your position. I think you are mistaken, but I get where you are coming from.
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    At first they came for the pot heads and I did nothing since I am not a pot head.....

    Yeah, I hate that CO is turning into CA.

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    I think we all should be concerned about how ALL tax money is being spent, not just what part is "yours". As if you can even tell which dollar is yours once it goes into the ever-growing pot (no pun intended).

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    Quote Originally Posted by PugnacAutMortem View Post
    If you aren't buying pot, it's not your money that is sitting in that $66 million. If you are buying pot then I understand caring about how that money is spent, because it's your money. If it's not your money, then what do you care how it's spent? Not your money, not your business.
    It's not POT MONEY, it's TAX REVENUE. Therefore, it is, in essence, every TAXPAYER's money. You should, indeed, be concerned about where this money goes, as it IS your money.
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    All of the money in the good ol' USA is the property of the citizens and others. The government does not create money, all the money that the government has was taken from people who worked for that money.

    This also includes monies created by the Federal Reserve and loaned to the government. The Fed is nominally a private organization so that money isn't created by the Federal Government either. We could argue that the Treasury Notes which FedGov creates are money but they aren't because the gains from printing Treasuries aren't realized until the Treasury Note is exchanged for dollars with the FedRes. It is a fine line but a line nonetheless. A Treasury Note held by the government is no more than shit paper, it gains value when the FedRes affirms that it has value by exchanging that shit paper for dollars.

    I work for corporate America, when i receive my check the first thing i notice is that the government confiscated its share before I saw one red cent. That is all you need to know about how the government views you and your labor.

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    The way I understood it was that it is pot tax that was over taxed, so that money should have all went back to the tax shops and pot purchasers. I don't buy the stuff, so none of it was my tax money in the first place. Why should I get any money back from something I never put money into...seems kinda like welfare BS to me. Granted the amount was very small, and had it been much larger I would have been greedy and voted to take a check, which would have been like the welfare mongers do daily, but I would have justified it in my mind that it was due to me for all the other wrongs and stealing the government has done to me by taking my money and giving it to worthless folks.

    but because the amount was so small, and I had a small hope the money might actually go to do some good, and I wanted to get back at the potheads for pissing on my gun rights costing me more money for transfers and BS laws, it was a childish move but one I am comfortable with. In the end I won't miss the small amount of money, the potheads will or have forgot about it, the pot businesses got hosed a bit, but hopefully that money will help actually do good preventing drug abuse and schools. I doubt it, but we will see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crays View Post
    It's not POT MONEY, it's TAX REVENUE. Therefore, it is, in essence, every TAXPAYER's money. You should, indeed, be concerned about where this money goes, as it IS your money.
    I understand what you're saying, however it's tax revenue from the sale of one item specifically allocated. That's the difference from income/sales/property taxes. The first $40 million of tax revenue goes to a public school construction fund and then the remaining money was to be decided on with the ballot issue. If the money went into the pool of all other taxes then yes I would agree with you, but since this is completely separate then it's a different issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper7 View Post
    The way I understood it was that it is pot tax that was over taxed, so that money should have all went back to the tax shops and pot purchasers. I don't buy the stuff, so none of it was my tax money in the first place. Why should I get any money back from something I never put money into...seems kinda like welfare BS to me. Granted the amount was very small, and had it been much larger I would have been greedy and voted to take a check, which would have been like the welfare mongers do daily, but I would have justified it in my mind that it was due to me for all the other wrongs and stealing the government has done to me by taking my money and giving it to worthless folks.

    but because the amount was so small, and I had a small hope the money might actually go to do some good, and I wanted to get back at the potheads for pissing on my gun rights costing me more money for transfers and BS laws, it was a childish move but one I am comfortable with. In the end I won't miss the small amount of money, the potheads will or have forgot about it, the pot businesses got hosed a bit, but hopefully that money will help actually do good preventing drug abuse and schools. I doubt it, but we will see.
    That money belonged to the potheads and it should have been returned to them.

    When your business is overtaxed will you vote to let the government keep it or will you want it back?

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    You can't make the argument of "it's not your money, so you shouldn't care," when the money is being turned over to the state, which is in the same position of "it's not your money." What claim dies the state have for that tax revenue? None.
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