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    Machine Gunner Kraven251's Avatar
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    Sales tax increase failed in Parker, which made me happy.
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    Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem. --TJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by GunsRBadMMMMKay View Post
    As are we all...........what is the acceptable tax range then?
    Better stated: What is the level of theft you are willing to agree to? If the gov't takes 100% of your income, is that theft? If only 80%? What if its only 50%? Or maybe only 3%? At what point specifically are you agreeing to be robbed at gunpoint/under threat?
    What is my joy if all hands, even the unclean, can reach into it? What is my wisdom, if even the fools can dictate to me? What is my freedom, if all creatures, even the botched and impotent, are my masters? What is my life, if I am but to bow, to agree and to obey?
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    A FUN TITLE asmo's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skip View Post
    I'd really like to know the story in DougCo. We've fought off the Dem/teacher's union three times in a row (IIRC). 82k ballots cast on the school board candidates. 225K registered voters (104K of those Republicans).

    What happened?

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    http://www.douglas.co.us/elections/
    http://results.enr.clarityelections....n/summary.html
    The anti-union people (incumbents) didn't spend any money, while the pro-union folks spent money like the fools they are. I probably got 20-30 pieces of mail in favor of the pro-union candidates, at least 5 phone calls, and multiple people coming door-to-door - not to mention the various cars driving around town....

    The incumbents - I got one mailing, which had pictures of their competition on it. Very strange.
    What is my joy if all hands, even the unclean, can reach into it? What is my wisdom, if even the fools can dictate to me? What is my freedom, if all creatures, even the botched and impotent, are my masters? What is my life, if I am but to bow, to agree and to obey?
    -- Ayn Rand, Anthem (Chapter 11)

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    Quote Originally Posted by sroz View Post
    Didn't even cost me stamps. Swung by the DCSO substation and dropped off...
    We did the same. Added about a minute to our morning commute. Didn't even have to get out of the car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    This is exactly the type of logic(?) and reasoning(?) that put us in the fiscal mess we're in today. Talk about not getting it.
    I think we just have fundamental differences in beliefs. I remember some of our exchanges in my thread I started awhile back in the politics forum about being libertarian. We just come from different schools of thought.

    But look on the bright side, not only is it not your money we're talking about...it's not even your ballot issue to vote on anymore. So cue up "Celebrate" by KC and the Sunshine Band because you don't need to deal with this kind of stuff anymore where you live
    Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that - George Carlin

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    Isn't Idaho a deeper shade of red than Utah?
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    It's an off - year election. In an off year election, most of the people who vote are people who have an interest in the outcome. Joe and Jane Q Public don't much care and probably dropped their ballot in the recycle bin or forgot about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    This is exactly the type of logic(?) and reasoning(?) that put us in the fiscal mess we're in today. Talk about not getting it.
    Of course some "DON'T GET IT" It's why i get responses like this.
    Nothing like bashing forum members for a class act!

    When i call some forum members SJW's (social justice warriors, for the uninformed) because there are bleeding heart, flag burning , Obama apologist here. Who applaud when D's take control, can't wait for Single payer Health Care, or even worse.
    Believe people like HRC really doesn't mean she want's to take guns away from us.
    Hell we have a pro- illegal alien supporter here, or did .


    Yes it's free speech. yes it's freedom of expression. However their idea of FREE is taking something i worked for , without paying for it.
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    State tax revenue is always collected from a wide variety of areas including personal income, business income, sales revenue or tourists dollars. Anytime taxes are collected in excess of the state budget, it is returned. As long as the state of CO has been returning this money it has always been given equally to all the residence who filed a tax return. We all know that not everybody even pays tax. So the argument that only those who paid the tax should get the refund has and will always fall on deaf ears.

    I always vote to return the money because governments needs to live on a budget like the rest of us. I think any time they get to keep and spend more than was budgeted just rewards them for their own shortcomings. I would have voted for them to keep the money if they could have earmarked it for a specific issue in need like roads or to shore up PERA's unfunded liability. But as always two years from now they will come to the voters asking for more money for things they say they are going to fix with this money.

    As an example, I challenge anybody to name a recent election year that we didn't vote on more money for schools. It was only about three or four elections back that we passed a state wide amendment that put significant annual school funding increases on auto pilot, regardless if the money was available or not. People are starting to realize I'm right when I say "If we are having an election then school funding is on the ballet somewhere". It gets old and no amount of increase is ever enough for them to stop asking for more.
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    Good post big e. My problem with school funding I.e. Raising taxes is the lack of correlation between funding and the quality of education.

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