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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyDrama View Post
    Many have little to no idea what they are going to do if/when they graduate.
    I'm well into my career and I still don't know what I want to be when I grow up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo View Post
    Why compete. They're entitled to any job they desire.
    I've never had a more WTF moment than seeing an Occupy protester with a sign that read (paraphrasing): 'My women's studies degree is just as valid as any other'. When the Fukushima disaster happened, you know what Japan needed? Chemical engineers, underwater welders, crane operators, and nuclear physicists. You know what they didn't need? Diatribes about the negative influence of western sexualization.

    I don't know what makes these people think that a degree with no quantitative research experience entitles them to run public programs. Don't want a degree? Learn a trade. But they really should stop acting like the world owes them a living just because.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZERO THEORY View Post
    I've never had a more WTF moment than seeing an Occupy protester with a sign that read (paraphrasing): 'My women's studies degree is just as valid as any other'. When the Fukushima disaster happened, you know what Japan needed? Chemical engineers, underwater welders, crane operators, and nuclear physicists. You know what they didn't need? Diatribes about the negative influence of western sexualization.

    I don't know what makes these people think that a degree with no quantitative research experience entitles them to run public programs. Don't want a degree? Learn a trade. But they really should stop acting like the world owes them a living just because.
    While it may be valid. The question is Does my Degree make me MARKETABLE in the real world and earn a living, out side the educational system ? If it's NO perhaps they should OCCUPY WORK QUALIFICATIONS , before going in to debt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZERO THEORY View Post

    I don't know what makes these people think that a degree with no quantitative research experience entitles them to run public programs. Don't want a degree? Learn a trade. But they really should stop acting like the world owes them a living just because.
    Because that's the line they've been fed they're entire life. "Go to college so you can get a good job." How many job applications specify that college is a requirement? My work place recently lightened up on the degree requirement when they couldn't hire a lady away from being a manager at Chili's because she made 10-20k more than what my company was going to start her at.

    So now, all the people who have been administrative assistants for years and years without a degree were allowed to apply to be adjusters. It actually sucks for those people because they've been waiting for an opportunity for years and years and they could probably have gone and made more money somewhere else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo View Post
    While it may be valid. The question is Does my Degree make me MARKETABLE in the real world and earn a living, out side the educational system ? If it's NO perhaps they should OCCUPY WORK QUALIFICATIONS , before going in to debt.
    This is an excellent point. To expand: the degree is your pre-requisite. The board/association/city/state/federal certifications are what allow you to keep your job, and grow as an employee/director/business owner. Engineers with no certs=as useful as soldiers with no weapons training.

    The first thing I learned was that you'll only use the very basics of mathematics and natural science in my field. The rest will all be learning new software, testing methods, and gaining niche certs. This is true of my field (geotechnical eng.) as well as my cousin's (Comp. Sci & El. Eng.) and father's (formerly Comm.Eng. and now radiology consulting). Everyone learns to use CAD in school, not everyone can pass the ICC soils cert.
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    The University has officially requested that students call the POLICE if someone SAYS something mean. No shit. They are adults, right?

    Nation of sissies.

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    Just saw the full video of the "students" and Assistant Professor Melissa Click pushing back on student reporters who were trying to cover the protest at the University of Missouri. The parents of those students should be very concerned about the kind of thuggery and lack of respect demonstrated. It's sad but the "education" being given to college students these days doesn't deserve to be put in the same class as teaching preschoolers how to tie their shoes much less what has traditionally been deemed a college education.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoneyBadger View Post
    I know this has been discussed here before, but I'd wager that 90+% of college degrees that are not STEM or technical training are a waste of money. Womens' studies? Zoology? Anthropology? Music? Photojournalism? Try something like Engineering, finance, accounting, law, medical, or computer/network security.
    The world would be an incredibly boring place if every single college student pursued nothing but STEM degrees. Yes, they are all the rage right now but nearly all degrees, to some extent, are cyclical.

    When I was in college, there was a purported shortage of dentists and thus a number of my classmates went pre-dent. Fast-forward ten years and there was an absolute glut of dentists, to the extent that a DDS could barely get you a job making denture molds. Similarly, there was a time when there were so many lawyers/physical therapists/nurses that there simply weren't enough jobs to cover everyone that had a degree in those fields. A close friend of mine has been a software engineer since the late 80's and is at the top of his game, can go/work most anywhere. However, he says more and more of that field is being outsourced to Southern Asia, primarily India right now.

    Go get a STEM degree, but the hot degree right now is not going to necessarily be the shining star in five years that it is right now.

    (Disclaimer, I'm the child of a vertebrate zoologist, spouse of an anthropologist, and I'm a photographer….that hit's nearly every one of the 'worthless' degrees! )

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    Quote Originally Posted by hatidua View Post
    The world would be an incredibly boring place if every single college student pursued nothing but STEM degrees. Yes, they are all the rage right now but nearly all degrees, to some extent, are cyclical.

    When I was in college, there was a purported shortage of dentists and thus a number of my classmates went pre-dent. Fast-forward ten years and there was an absolute glut of dentists, to the extent that a DDS could barely get you a job making denture molds. Similarly, there was a time when there were so many lawyers/physical therapists/nurses that there simply weren't enough jobs to cover everyone that had a degree in those fields. A close friend of mine has been a software engineer since the late 80's and is at the top of his game, can go/work most anywhere. However, he says more and more of that field is being outsourced to Southern Asia, primarily India right now.

    Go get a STEM degree, but the hot degree right now is not going to necessarily be the shining star in five years that it is right now.

    (Disclaimer, I'm the child of a vertebrate zoologist, spouse of an anthropologist, and I'm a photographer….that hit's nearly every one of the 'worthless' degrees! )
    But you can take great pictures, while fly fishing. Or borrowing handicap carts
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    I believe the OP should have the mods change the title of this thread to

    A THIN SKINNED MINORITY IS RUNNING THIS COUNTRY........................................... .. IN TO THE GROUND.
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