How about them Broncos...........

[Jer]

Isn't the AFC winner/champion determined by AFC Championship game, to be played in 3 weeks?

You are correct sir... trying to do more things than my feeble brain is capable of this fine Monday morning. I meant first seed in the AFC.

[Honey Badger282.8]

Struggled to move the ball efficiently? Brock threw for over 200yds in the first quarter? How much more efficient do you want them to be? The picks were more on his teammates than Brock. He gets no help at times from his line and receiving crew and this is the same performance you will see from those guys regardless of who's under center... I mean in the backfield since Peyton is never under center and scraps 90% of the offensive system simply by being in there. Give good AFC teams a week to prep for an offense led by THIS Peyton Manning and it will be same old Peyton, different game. Brock is missing on the deep balls but it's reasonable misses. Peyton was missing in a manner that made it look like he was putting EVERYTHING he had on the ball because the accuracy was just gone. He was all over the place. At least most of Brock's misses deep are close showing an ability to actually control the deep pass but barely missing the mark. It's also funny that you say the O-line has improved the last few weeks but put none of that credit on Brock and the existence of the ability to actually scramble and reemergence of a run game which is also due in no-small-part to a credible pass game once again. If Peyton isn't far closer to 100% than he's shown Denver is doomed because an AFC playoff team with a week to prep for Peyton will game plan to load the box to combat the run game and pressure Peyton. Peyton won't be able to hit his intermediate passes and the long ball will not be a threat because he won't have time. People forget that it was over an entire season (going back to mid-season) of exactly that minus one or two games of good play. The debate is over the QB but the Broncos will go as their defense goes this year because it's all riding on them regardless of if it's Brock or Peyton. Even if Peyton is 100% he's aged considerably and it will be cold and shitty in Denver for the playoff games. He has historically done lousy in the post season and inclement weather and aging doesn't help those out.

It amazes me how short-term some Bronco fan's memory is at times.

And the run game didn't get going against the Chargers until Manning came in. It's not like the run game has improved drastically under Osweiler either:
Rushing with Manning as starter: 106 and 3.85 YPA
Rushing with Osweiler as starter: 126 and 4.45 YPA

The running game has been improving all season long and I place the late success more on CJ Anderson finally getting healthy and the o-line figuring out how to run block. They still can't pass block to save their life but at least Manning takes less drive ending sacks than Osweiler.

Both QBs have their strengths right now, Mannings is more suited for a post season run. Manning was getting better as the season progressed, up until his injury. Brock has been getting worse as defenses continue to perplex him. The fact is that right now Brock is easier for defenses to scheme for and that completely negates any physical advantage he has over Manning. Manning can change the play at the line enough to keep defense honest.

[yz9890]

I think bringing in Manning had a psychological impact on both the Chargers and the Broncos. It seemed to energize the Broncos and deflate the Chargers.

I love this meme. I cheer every time that miserable cheating bag of crap loses.


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[ZERO THEORY]

I cheer every time that miserable cheating bag of crap loses.

"Spygate" is well-known as a hit job, considering literally every other team in the league was doing the exact same thing. The "cheating" was a completely inconsequential technical violation.

"Ballghazi/Deflategate" not only had laughably weak evidence in the Wells report, but the amount of deflation was also completely insignificant. Even IF it had actually been a nefarious plot, it would've hindered the Pats more than help them by way of miniscule reductions in velocity, and making it more difficult to make grabs.

People hate success when it doesn't favor them. Make no mistake, the Pats aren't where they are because of cheating. They're there because of brilliant and obsessive dedication to game study, terrific front office work, and building/retaining talent. Gronk was drafted 42nd in the 2nd round. Brady was pick 199 in the 6th. Chandler Jones was taken 21st, and Hightower 25th in 2012. Hate 'em all you want, but the Pats are right up there with the Spurs for the most dominant dynasties of the last 20 years.

[yz9890]

Yeah, i've heard that rationalization before.


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[Doc45]

The sad truth is that the entire AFC sucks. IF the Broncos happen to make it to SB 50 they will not fare well against a far superior NFC.

[Jamnanc]

The sad truth is that the entire AFC sucks. IF the Broncos happen to make it to SB 50 they will not fare well against a far superior NFC.

You are living in the past. The Seahawks are beatable. The panthers are beatable by this defense. Ditto the cardinals.

[yz9890]

The sad truth is that the entire AFC sucks. IF the Broncos happen to make it to SB 50 they will not fare well against a far superior NFC.

While it's true that any team can lose on any given Sunday, it's hard to find an AFC team that has a decent chance of beating the Panthers.


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[SamuraiCO]

That's why we play the games. We can say anything about teams on paper. Comes down to one team's will to win in the trenches, play calling. Damn the Chargers were moving the ball against our Defense when they had no O-line and on paper we should have shredded them. Maybe that would have panned out if we did not have five turnovers.

Last time I heard the stadium that loud when Manning came in is when Tebow came in. Tebow carried that for every home game into the playoff game vs the Steelers. Only thing I can equate it to is when the headliner comes on stage even when the opening band was very good.

Hope the home field advantage is not squandered and the 12th man shows up.

[SamuraiCO]

"Spygate" is well-known as a hit job, considering literally every other team in the league was doing the exact same thing. The "cheating" was a completely inconsequential technical violation.

"Ballghazi/Deflategate" not only had laughably weak evidence in the Wells report, but the amount of deflation was also completely insignificant. Even IF it had actually been a nefarious plot, it would've hindered the Pats more than help them by way of miniscule reductions in velocity, and making it more difficult to make grabs.

People hate success when it doesn't favor them. Make no mistake, the Pats aren't where they are because of cheating. They're there because of brilliant and obsessive dedication to game study, terrific front office work, and building/retaining talent. Gronk was drafted 42nd in the 2nd round. Brady was pick 199 in the 6th. Chandler Jones was taken 21st, and Hightower 25th in 2012. Hate 'em all you want, but the Pats are right up there with the Spurs for the most dominant dynasties of the last 20 years.

I would have to agree. It is glaringly obvious when you compare the Pats to someone like the Browns who squandered and chewed up so many great draft picks. One organization is built better from the top down to produce a team that is contending every year. Broncos also have that and we should be grateful versus what has been done to the other pro teams in Denver.