Oh goody. Colorado Springs is on "the list"

[Irving]

Why aren't all the peaceful muslims out in the streets condemning what these radical muslims are doing to their peaceful religion?
I hear nothing but crickets.

Caught a piece on NPR where they asked a lady this same question. Pretty much her answer was that they don't believe the terrorists are muslims so they have nothing for which to apologize. They had clips of a couple other people saying similar things.
That's just a handful of people though. Seems to me that with a wide variety of people, there should be someone out there saying something. The fear must run pretty deep when no one is saying anything.

[PugnacAutMortem]

Caught a piece on NPR where they asked a lady this same question. Pretty much her answer was that they don't believe the terrorists are muslims so they have nothing for which to apologize. They had clips of a couple other people saying similar things.
That's just a handful of people though. Seems to me that with a wide variety of people, there should be someone out there saying something. The fear must run pretty deep when no one is saying anything.

That's actually a good point, because when groups like Westboro start mouthing their stupidity off, Christians say "Well that's not Christianity" and everyone is in agreement that they are retards and we all move on. Why the double standard for Islam?

[Zundfolge]

That's actually a good point, because when groups like Westboro start mouthing their stupidity off, Christians say "Well that's not Christianity" and everyone is in agreement that they are retards and we all move on. Why the double standard for Islam?

Because you can point out specifically in Islamic theology and tradition where ISIS is following the words and example of Mohammad to the letter. Whereas you can point out specifically in Christian theology where the Westboro folk are in direct opposition to the words and example of Christ.

[Irving]

Because Westboro Baptist isn't killing anyone.

[PugnacAutMortem]

Because you can point out specifically in Islamic theology and tradition where ISIS is following the words and example of Mohammad to the letter. Whereas you can point out specifically in Christian theology where the Westboro folk are in direct opposition to the words and example of Christ.

Very true, fair point there.

[Dave]

Because you can point out specifically in Islamic theology and tradition where ISIS is following the words and example of Mohammad to the letter. Whereas you can point out specifically in Christian theology where the Westboro folk are in direct opposition to the words and example of Christ.

Really? They can point to passages in the bible that justify their position.

[68Charger]

Really? They can point to passages in the bible that justify their position.

They can use passages out of context, typically old testament... do they do burnt offerings, too? One example would be Leviticus- In context, that applied to God's chosen people- in response to what they were doing after the Exodus to the promised land. The Westboro lawyer's association posing as a church is certainly not among God's chosen people.

Much of the new testament made things like animal sacrifices and "eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth" not required any more, since Christ paid for those sins with his blood. It is in the bible to show what Christ died for.

The Koran gets more and more violent towards the end, and due to Abrogation, the later passages nullify the peaceful earlier passages where they conflict.
Couple that with Taqiyya (the command that Muslims lie to infidels if it furthers the cause of Islam), and those earlier passages are left in the Koran as examples to lie to infidels when asked what Islam is about.

[argonstrom]

Legit question John.
How does one tell the peaceable believer in Islam from the radical set?

My question still stands.

Another question: If the sheep are having dinner, why invite the wolf to the table?

Do I support importing military age male "migrants" that should be fighting for their homeland? No.

I answered your question, yet you respond with those tired analogies.

Did you respond to my objection / assertion? No. You, and so many like you, are unable to identify the real enemy and therefore call anyone unlike you "snakes" (by default, you called my wife a snake, for which you owe an apology).

How do you think our national security is benefited when some halfwit behind her in line at a Chipotle mutters "terrorist" under his breathe to his buddy, unaware that I was with her?

[hollohas]

The Islamic State doesn't believe the so-called moderate Muslims are true Muslims either. Islam has been extreme and violent since forever. The moderate Muslims are a new invention. The Islamic State is a different animal entirely and their goal is to bring Islam back to the way they believe it is supposed to be and always was.

Many moderate Muslims were only moderate out of convenience. However, now many see this time as the return of the Caliphate they have been emboldened to join the cause.

Read this paper. It's the most complete explanation on the subject I have ever read. It is long...

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/...-wants/384980/

What ISIS Really Wants
The Islamic State is no mere collection of psychopaths. It is a religious group with carefully considered beliefs, among them that it is a key agent of the coming apocalypse. Here’s what that means for its strategy—and for how to stop it

[hollohas]

(by default, you called my wife a snake, for which you owe an apology).

He did nothing of the sort.

Anyone who treats anyone else like some folks have treated your wife deserve a punch in the mouth. People are assholes. But BP is not one of those folks.