Moderate Muslims

[roberth]

I would have written it this way:

Some Muslims, some Nazis and some communists (D) have no problem murdering people. To some, the ends justify the means.

The trick isn't killing another human being. We are good at it and have been doing that as long as we have existed. The trick is killing those who need to be killed while protecting those who need to be protected. Often taking the effort to do this correctly can cost you your own life.

Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends. 14You are my friends if you do what I command. 15I no longer call you servants, because a servant does not know his master’s business. Instead, I have called you friends, for everything that I learned from my Father I have made known to you. 16You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you so that you might go and bear fruit—fruit that will last—and so that whatever you ask in my name the Father will give you. 17This is my command: Love each other.
John 15:13-17

Is this one of those areas where as an example, i should judge people who voted for obama less harshly than the obama administration itself, even though without the affirmation of the obama voter the obama administration wouldn't exist. I'm having trouble drawing the line between actual acts of evil (obama administration) and the voters who gave their affirmation to the obama administration so it could perform acts of evil, right now I see them as one in the same.

For purposes of the historical judicial system, I'll clarify this.

It was thou shalt not "Retzach" which means "Illegal killing". The bible actually clarified it quite well.

War = justified killing.
Hunting = justified killing.
Self-defense = justified killing.

Lying in wait to ambush someone = Retzach.
(specifically, if a person kills someone like a mountain lion lays in wait for a deer).

Someone breaks into your house at night (which is burglary or other crimes with risk to you) = justified killing (Like the make my day law)
Someone breaks into your house in daytime (which is essentially burglary without risk to you) = probably Retzach if you kill them.

Someone kills your family member? You can kill them back unless they voluntarily go to a sanctuary city (think - voluntary prison)
Revenge killing in a sanctuary city (prison) = Retzach.

They didn't have 2 years of litigation and 20 years of appeals process back then. If you did something very, very wrong, you segregated yourself from the general population by fleeing to a sanctuary city. If you didn't, it was wholly justified for society (generally, surviving relatives) to kill you.

Much of this has been lost in the English translation, but that's where the lines were drawn. The punishment for Retzach was to have ones name removed from "the book of life".

Thank you. I knew someone would come along with a better explanation than I had.

A question - why does nighttime or daytime matter, is the author assuming no one is home during the day? Why didn't the author designate the house as occupied or vacant instead of night and day?

[BushMasterBoy]

Behold a pale horse, and his name is hell and death.

[Irving]

War is not justified killing unless specifically directed by God.

[cstone]

War is not justified killing unless specifically directed by God.

It sort of depends on whose court you are being judged in. Man's court = Man's rules, God's court = God's rules

There are evil people in the Obama administration. There were evil people in every administration. Every act that we disagree with does not make the act evil. Even if we are not evil, there are things that we want that are evil.

The world is a very grey place. I believe we find light where we bring light and we are a people who love darkness.

[bobbyfairbanks]

If you defend Muslims in any way your a coward.




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[brutal]

War is not justified killing unless specifically directed by God.

Self-defense = justified killing.

Shouldn't we consider defense from a Jihad self defense?

[Irving]

I was speaking specifically about war, not individual defense killing.

[brutal]

I was speaking specifically about war, not individual defense killing.

But as a collective society, are we not defending ourselves against a Jihad being waged against us infidels?

FWI, I'm drunk. LOL

[Irving]

We're all drunk right now.

[cstone]

If you defend Muslims in any way your a coward.




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Would you say the same about any person who defended another person who happened to be a Muslim?