Petition saying NO to the "refugees"

[Great-Kazoo]

Heard the same radio show as Bert. Hickenpooper hid behind the fact that once they are in the U.S, he can't do anything about them coming to Colorado. Listening to him talk about the vetting of the refugees was comical. He knows the vetting is worthless and he skipped around and bumbled every time he talked about it. Claiming the feds will have it covered.
Was a frustrating listen to say the least. Kept saying that it is a 2 year process to clear them to come to the U.S and if the fed govt will make sure that they are not bad guys.

Remember. Hick is the same guy who said he sign the magazine ban, because someone asked him to.

[Rucker61]

If the Governor was honest he'd just say "Send us the refugees....and the Federal money that will follow them".

This whole thing is kinda silly. Let's say CO has the ability to refuse refugees. So they get sent to NY instead. But there are a few Islamic radical goat rapists in the NY group that want to blow up the Federal Center in CO. They'd just get in a car and drive there.

Nobody checks papers at the State borders, and nor should they. This whole "refusing to accept" thing is overblown IMHO.

Do I like that they are coming here, anywhere in the US, at all? NO.

Agreed. We already have 2.6 million Muslims living in America. If Isis or any other terrorist group wanted sleeper cells, they've already got them here. The ones here were vetted about as well or worse than the 10k coming through. Heck, we have 11 million illegal aliens from down south with no vetting at all. The risk factor is very low; statistically, your car is more danger to you than a terrorist of any stripe.

[MarkCO]

Agreed. We already have 2.6 million Muslims living in America. If Isis or any other terrorist group wanted sleeper cells, they've already got them here. The ones here were vetted about as well or worse than the 10k coming through. Heck, we have 11 million illegal aliens from down south with no vetting at all. The risk factor is very low; statistically, your car is more danger to you than a terrorist of any stripe.

Yes, but until 2014, Islam had no caliph. With a caliph, their rules change and according to the Koran, so should their actions. If you are interested in learning about what ISIS may really want and some of the foundations of their cause, here is a good article: http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/...-wants/384980/

With a caliph and territory, the rules have been significantly changed and American leadership does not appear to understand it.

[Rucker61]

Yes, but until 2014, Islam had no caliph. With a caliph, their rules change and according to the Koran, so should their actions. If you are interested in learning about what ISIS may really want and some of the foundations of their cause, here is a good article: http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/...-wants/384980/

With a caliph and territory, the rules have been significantly changed and American leadership does not appear to understand it.

I read that article at the beginning of the week, on a another forum, and forwarded it on. It's a great read, and we should be focused on the strategy described by the author.

Isis isn't the only terrorist organization that we need to worry about.

[Aloha_Shooter]

Agreed. We already have 2.6 million Muslims living in America. If Isis or any other terrorist group wanted sleeper cells, they've already got them here. The ones here were vetted about as well or worse than the 10k coming through. Heck, we have 11 million illegal aliens from down south with no vetting at all. The risk factor is very low; statistically, your car is more danger to you than a terrorist of any stripe.

That statement would be true if all Muslims were alike but they're not. The refugee importation program has a self-selection bias that you're not accounting for. Do we have radicalized Americans? Sure, recent arrests have proven that. However, we also have documented evidence that ISIS plans on using refugee programs to insert additional agents. Say ISIS and al Qaeda already have 1, 2, 5, 10, 20 sleeper cells in the US ... what's the logic behind giving them the ability to organize ANOTHER 10, 20, 60?

[BPTactical]

With a caliph and territory, the rules have been significantly changed and American leadership does not appear to understand it.

I disagree Mark.
The "Leadership" understands perfectly that the rules have changed. They helped re write them.