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    From:
    https://www.uscis.gov/us-citizenship...naturalization
    You May Qualify for Naturalization if:
    • You have been a permanent resident for at least 5 years and meet all other eligibility requirements, please visit our Path to Citizenship page for more information.
    • You have been a permanent resident for 3 years or more and meet all eligibility requirements to file as a spouse of a U.S. citizen, please visit our Naturalization for Spouses of U.S. Citizens page for more information.
    • You have qualifying service in the U.S. armed forces and meet all other eligibility requirements. Visit the Military section of our website.
    • Your child may qualify for naturalization if you are a U.S. citizen, the child was born outside the U.S., the child is currently residing outside the U.S., and all other eligibility requirements are met. Visit our Citizenship Through Parents page for more information.
    ETA: This has been suggested as the primary reason Obama insists he was born on US soil. If he was born in Kenya, he would have fallen under the above naturalization clause and been ineligible. Also why his school and passport records are no where to be found - possible dual citizenship in his past - so the theory goes.
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    All this bickering about "natural born" etc is really depressing.
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    Anyone know how he gets an official sign off that ends the speculation? To me, I see him as eligible and the only reason this is coming up is to vet him now as opposed to later.

    Sounds like he needs to get ahead of this thing and get an official answer asap just to make this issue go away, but I am afraid the only way he can get a final answer is SCOTUS which isn't the most time efficient route.

    Any other options?

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    Let's see, who to believe? A poster on an internet gun forum or accomplished attorneys writing for the Harvard Law Review? Call me crazy but I'm gonna go with Harvard Law Review...

    http://harvardlawreview.org/2015/03/...-born-citizen/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    Let's see, who to believe? A poster on an internet gun forum or accomplished attorneys writing for the Harvard Law Review? Call me crazy but I'm gonna go with Harvard Law Review...

    http://harvardlawreview.org/2015/03/...-born-citizen/
    I would not expect anyone to believe little ole me. That is why I have posted links and quotes from several reliable sources, to include court cases, throughout this discussion.

    And let's not forget, Obama was elected the President of the Harvard Law Review in 1990, Ruth Bader Ginsburg served as editor for a year, and Elena Kagan served as supervising editor at one time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davsel View Post
    I would not expect anyone to believe little ole me. That is why I have posted links and quotes from several reliable sources, to include court cases, throughout this discussion.

    And let's not forget, Obama was elected the President of the Harvard Law Review in 1990, Ruth Bader Ginsburg served as editor for a year, and Elena Kagan served as supervising editor at one time.
    I know that, I like links and stuff, I just don't see how they have any standing. I'd think these people would do a little research before filing suit, but that's just me.

    I knew jugears was president but I didn't know that about the other 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davsel View Post
    I would not expect anyone to believe little ole me. That is why I have posted links and quotes from several reliable sources, to include court cases, throughout this discussion.

    And let's not forget, Obama was elected the President of the Harvard Law Review in 1990, Ruth Bader Ginsburg served as editor for a year, and Elena Kagan served as supervising editor at one time.
    Wasn't a slam directed towards you personally. Apologies if that's the way it came across. And I did read the links and such.

    But the authors of that piece aren't Obama, Ginsburg or Kagan. Paul Klement is a former Solicitor General and is now a Georgetown University law professor. Katyal is also a GU professor of constitutional law and former acting Solicitor General. They aren't you're average late night TV lawyers.

    In my opinion, the legal weight favoring Cruz far outweighs that against him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    Wasn't a slam directed towards you personally. Apologies if that's the way it came across. And I did read the links and such.

    But the authors of that piece aren't Obama, Ginsburg or Kagan. Paul Klement is a former Solicitor General and is now a Georgetown University law professor. Katyal is also a GU professor of constitutional law and former acting Solicitor General. They aren't you're average late night TV lawyers.

    In my opinion, the legal weight favoring Cruz far outweighs that against him.

    It will at least be interesting to watch it all come to a head.

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    I would expect the current SCOTUS to rule in favor of Cruz's / Rubio's eligibility to avoid opening a can of worms concerning Obama's eligibility.
    I can't imagine what the implications would be if Obama was one day determined to have been ineligible.

    I expect the subject will not make it into a court room because neither party wants it to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davsel View Post
    I would expect the current SCOTUS to rule in favor of Cruz's / Rubio's eligibility to avoid opening a can of worms concerning Obama's eligibility.
    I can't imagine what the implications would be if Obama was one day determined to have been ineligible.

    I expect the subject will not make it into a court room because neither party wants it to.
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    what we think the law means is worth exactly Jack and shit... and Jack left town years ago.
    The precedent was set by keeping the POSOTUS in the office... so that set the standard.... I could conceal my records, and my opponents could call a bunch of questions- but it doesn't mean anything... even if I am or am not a citizen. You're better off not releasing any records... (in the eyes of the Left, anyway- some of us still care)
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