Cruz, Rubio, and Jindal are all ineligible to be President - Not Natural Born Citizens of the US

[davsel]

Nope. Not until the SCOTUS makes a ruling.
We've seen what 7 years of foreign ties can do to our country.
Now we have an anchor baby and a Canadian in the running.


ETA: Cruz is an arse

[HoneyBadger]

Whether or not Canada recognized Cruz's US citizenship had no bearing on whether the US did. They are completely different legal systems and the US has recognized the children of US citizens as having US citizenship regardless of where they are born. My brother and sister were both born overseas (before Cruz) but recognized as US citizens from day one. They got naturalization certificates solely to prevent the other country from trying to lay a claim on them but it was never a question as far as US law. We have had mirror cases in the past where country X granted citizenship status to people but the US didn't recognize any dual-citizenship status (including IIRC one very prominent senator and former presidential candidate).

Can we put a rest to this ridiculous line of argument? Say Cruz is an arse but this whole citizenship thing is bogus.

Yes, seriously.

[cstone]

Since the final word must come from the SCOTUS, all this thread can be is another opinionated discussion on the Internet.

If scientists could discover a method of converting Internet opinions into a clean energy source, all of our problems would be solved.

It takes at least two to argue. Your choice whether you want to be one of them.
Argue on gentleman

[HoneyBadger]

If scientists could discover a method of converting Internet opinions into a clean energy source, all of our problems would be solved.

Sounds kind of like an idea I heard a while ago: pulling static electricity out of the air to power trains and cars.

[roberth]

Since the final word must come from the SCOTUS, all this thread can be is another opinionated discussion on the Internet.

If scientists could discover a method of converting Internet opinions into a clean energy source, all of our problems would be solved.

It takes at least two to argue. Your choice whether you want to be one of them.
Argue on gentleman

Sage advice.

[davsel]

Uh Oh
http://northamericanlawcenter.org/te...#.Vs6PPHBDTnqD

Unfortunately, there is no evidence to suggest that the parent or parents of Ted Cruz ever filed a CRBA form with the U.S. Government in or around 1970, which is why Ted Cruz released a copy of his Canadian citizenship records and not any U.S. citizenship records. At present, all FOIA (Freedom of Information Act) requests filed in search of any U.S. citizenship documents to confirm the true official U.S. citizenship status of Ted Cruz have been denied access. All citizenship records for Ted Cruz are sealed unless and until Ted Cruz agrees to allow any such records to be released by either U.S. or Canadian agencies.

As a result, there remains no authentic evidence to support the claims that Ted Cruz is either a “natural born” or “naturalized” citizen of the United States.

Without any form of U.S. Citizenship documentation, and proof of Canadian citizenship at birth in 1970 and holding that legal status until May 2014 when he renounced his birth citizenship to Canada, there is no way for Ted Cruz to prove that he is either “natural born” and eligible for the Oval Office, or “naturalized” prior to 2012, when he sought and accepted a seat in the U.S. Senate as a legal citizen of Canada.

On the basis of all available evidence today, Ted Cruz is in fact holding a seat in the U.S. Senate illegally, with no documented proof of legal U.S. citizenship whatsoever, and proof of Canadian citizenship between the years of birth in 1970 and May 2014.

It is unfortunate that a person so many have placed their political faith in has proven willing to defraud his supporters for both votes and millions in campaign donations. But it is better we know now, than after he wins the GOP nomination only to be destroyed by Democrats later, using the same facts and evidence presented here.

[davsel]

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016...enship-issues/

Two New York voters are suing the state’s Board of Elections to have Republican presidential candidate Ted Cruz booted from the ballot over questions about his citizenship.

The issue has been trumpeted by Cruz’s foe, Donald Trump, though the pair who are suing say they are not aligned with the billionaire businessman.

“Notwithstanding the bluster of Mr. Trump … my issue is there is a constitutional problem that has arisen, and it has to be addressed,” said Manhasset, LI, resident William Gallo, who filed the lawsuit with Manhattanite Barry Korman.

The pair cites an article of the US Constitution that says, “No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this constitution, shall be eligible to the office of president.”

Gallo, 85, a Republican, has not yet chosen a candidate to back.

“It’s got nothing to do with Mr. Cruz as far as whether he’s a good conservative or not a good conservative,” Gallo said. Instead, Gallo said, he wants the court to settle the constitutional question so that “people can go to the polls feeling they have an answer.”

Korman, 81, of West 96th Street, declined to comment. But his lawyer, Roger Bernstein, said Korman is an independent who wants to resolve the matter before the New York State primary in April.

A judge in Illinois on Friday will hear a lawsuit challenging Ted Cruz’s eligibility to serve as president, putting questions about the Texas senator’s status back into the news the day before the South Carolina primary.

[davsel]

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016...ility-lawsuit/

An attorney for the Ted Cruz campaign asked a Cook County judge Friday to dismiss an Illinois man’s lawsuit challenging the Texas senator’s eligibility to run for president, citing that the Republican hopeful wasn’t properly served with the complaint.

Lawrence Joyce, an Illinois voter and Ben Carson supporter, brought his complaint earlier this month to the Illinois State Board of Elections, which dismissed it.

Now, he is appealing the case with the Cook County Circuit Court in Chicago, asking it to rule Cruz ineligible to run in next month’s GOP primary in Illinois. Joyce challenges whether the senator from Texas meets the criteria to serve as president because he was born in Canada.

Sharee Langenstein, an attorney for Cruz, said in court Friday it is “very, very clear” the Cook County court doesn’t have jurisdiction to hear the case because state law stipulates the candidate be served with the complaint. Joyce, a pharmacist and attorney from Poplar Grove, Ill., failed to serve Cruz, whose home address is listed in his petition to be placed on the state’s ballot, Langenstein said.

Judge Maureen Ward Kirby set a March 1 court date to hear arguments on the motion to dismiss. Joyce, who works the midnight shift at a hospital pharmacy, told the judge he wasn’t available for arguments before then because of work commitments. The Illinois primary is March 15 and early voting has already begun.

Despite the close timing, Joyce said it is worth letting his complaint play out.

“The nomination doesn’t take place until July,” Joyce said. “So if a determination is made after the primary that Ted Cruz is not eligible to be president then certainly it would be incumbent upon the Republican National Committee not allow the name of Ted Cruz to be entered at the convention in July.”

Voters in Texas and New York also have filed legal challenges on whether Cruz meets the citizenship qualifications. The Indiana Board of Election is scheduled to hear a complaint Friday from a Republican voter challenging whether Cruz and fellow GOP presidential hopeful Marco Rubio meet the “natural-born” requirement. Rubio, whose parents immigrated from Cuba, was born in Florida.

[Aloha_Shooter]

From The Naturalization Act of 1790 (emphasis added):

And the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond Sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born Citizens: Provided, that the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident in the United States: Provided also, that no person heretofore proscribed by any States, shall be admitted a citizen as aforesaid, except by an Act of the Legislature of the State in which such person was proscribed.

and as amended in 1795 (again, emphasis added):

SEC. 3. And be it further enacted, that the children of persons duly naturalized, dwelling within the United States, and being under the age of twenty-one years, at the time of such naturalization, and the children of citizens of the United States, born out of the limits and jurisdiction of the United States, shall be considered as citizens of the United States: Provided, That the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons, whose fathers have never been resident of the United States: Provided also, That no person heretofore proscribed by any state, or who has been legally convicted of having joined the army of Great Britain during the late war, shall be admitted a citizen as foresaid, without the consent of the legislature of the state, in which such person was proscribed.

Now, you can argue about whether this pertains when one parent is a foreigner who has never lived in the US but it's pretty clear that the children of US citizens who are born outside the borders (like John McCain or my siblings) are considered natural born citizens. It's even pretty clear that Barack Obama -- with one parent who was a US citizen and another parent who had resided here -- is considered a natural born citizen.

[davsel]

The 1795 amendment REMOVED the "natural born" language from the 1790 Act.

See Post #8