Require more training for CCW

[Lars]

So I've recently been engaged in a conversation with a guy that is a liberal pro Bernie supporter. I won't say that he's anti gun but he certainly isn't pro gun. I can honestly say that it has been almost a pleasure to discuss this topic with him as he has been receptive to info and to seeing the other side. The conversations have been civil without name calling ( this may be because he is somewhat family however not close family)

this brings me to my question, what would be so bad about requiring a certain amount of training before getting your concealed? I know I have as I'm sure some of you have to, been around a guy that you say to yourself " this guy shouldn't have a gun let alone be caring one in public. If both sides could settle on a middle ground (and that's a big if) would it really be a bad thing? I don't see how additional trading could hurt any of us but I do see how the required part could throw a wrench into the mix.

Yes a gun is just a tool but it is a tool that can take a life that we carry with us to defend ourselves and those we love. Some of us train and practice to ensure that we are prepared to do just that while others take a class and feel that they will save the world from all that is evil. So hypothetically let's say that you are required to complete a 4 day class that involves written knowledge of laws and gun safety as well as practical shooting situations before getting your CCW. Then let's say every 5 years you have to complete a 10 hr. refresher. Obviously there would be exceptions for recently retired police and military.

just curious to hear some thoughts on this from you guys on the pros and cons of a situation like this.

[hurley842002]

The key word (and you noted it) is required, period, the end. Everyone SHOULD be getting as much training as possible, but everyone's access to training is different, and that shouldn't hinder one from being able to carry (I know folks that want to carry, but can't afford the current requirements to do so). At the end of the day, we just don't need the government (at any level) deciding what is best for us as it pertains to a God given, constitutionally protected right.

[RCCrawler]

What other right guaranteed to us by our forefathers do we have to training before we can exercise it?

[milwaukeeshaker]

According to 2nd amendment we don't need a CCW in the first place. So to hell with the training idea.

What other right guaranteed to us by our forefathers do we have to training before we can exercise it?

[Lars]

I agree with you Hurley, and that was one of the key points that I brought up in my discussion.

[Honey Badger282.8]

I do think there should be training but not anything resembling what we have now. I'd like to see curriculum added to high schools that would teach basic firearm safety and use.

[milwaukeeshaker]

Great idea!!!
As well as bring back Driver Ed classes.

I do think there should be training but not anything resembling what we have now. I'd like to see curriculum added to high schools that would teach basic firearm safety and use.

[Dlesh123]

I do think there should be training but not anything resembling what we have now. I'd like to see curriculum added to high schools that would teach basic firearm safety and use.

Oh, you mean like the things we used to do in grade school, high school and college back in the 50,60,early 70s? Absolutely agree with you, a little training and development of respect for weapons and life would go a long way. Oh, there was one other ingredient, a father who cared and taught some of those same things.

[Gman]

this brings me to my question, what would be so bad about requiring a certain amount of training before getting your concealed?

The Constitution doesn't have this limitation. I think the government giving us permission to carry flies in the face of 'shall not be infringed'. I have the natural right to protect myself and my family. If the government want's to take this away, they need to prove that I'm a criminal.

This is one of the many reasons I like the trend of 'Constitutional Carry' that is again removing the requirement of seeking the government's permission.

The founders knew what they were doing. This was in a time before birth certificates, social security cards, government ID, etc.

We are innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around.

[mtnrider]

When was the last time a licensed concealed carry person went on a Jihad shooting rampage? I don't think we are the problem here but the current administration would like everyone to think we are.

I see were you are being led but don't be fooled, it's yet more more step of taking our rights away. You are being led down the road of "compromise" (ie: confiscation)