Require more training for CCW

[Honey Badger282.8]

My biggest complaint about gun violence numbers is when people lump suicides in with murders, not homicides, as something that can be directly attributed to firearms. I don't know why but that grinds my gears more than any other tactic used by the proponents of gun control.

[Dlesh123]

I do think there should be training but not anything resembling what we have now. I'd like to see curriculum added to high schools that would teach basic firearm safety and use.

Oh, you mean like the things we used to do in grade school, high school and college back in the 50,60,early 70s? Absolutely agree with you, a little training and development of respect for weapons and life would go a long way. Oh, there was one other ingredient, a father who cared and taught some of those same things.

[Irving]

That's another false argument that just attempts to shift blame away from personal responsibility. I grew up with a dad, but not with guns. When I was well into adulthood, I decided I wanted a gun and to learn about guns. I went it and found the information on my own, no childhood gun training from involved father required. I do think teaching gun safety in school would go a long way though.

[Dlesh123]

That's another false argument that just attempts to shift blame away from personal responsibility. I grew up with a dad, but not with guns. When I was well into adulthood, I decided I wanted a gun and to learn about guns. I went it and found the information on my own, no childhood gun training from involved father required. I do think teaching gun safety in school would go a long way though.

Just said it was an ingredient, particularly for me. Not a requirement. I am glad that you chose to do so on your own. However i would posit that you had someone in your life that started you down a path of self sufficiency and responsibility. That is the important part, not necessarily teaching specifically about guns, but it just doesn't hurt.

Also + 1 for TheGrey's post.

[wctriumph]

My initial training came from my father and my uncle, later when in the Cub Scouts, then NRA hunter safety class, then high school shooting team. I was shooting a gun before I started riding motorcycles and I have been riding for 50+ years.

Mandatory training will lead to mandatory liability insurance. No thanks.

[OtterbatHellcat]

Wow....carrying insurance in order to carry your weapon.

I can totally see that happening.....sadly enough.

[theGinsue]

Plus, liability insurance for instructors. I can see someone suing an insteuctor for teaching someone something, or not teaching someone something. Surprised it hasn't happened yet.

[O2HeN2]

what threshold of training do you think is "good enough"?

If Charles Schumer gets to set it? Weekly classes, 10 hours minimum. $1,000 a class. Permit expires every week, $1,000 renewal.

...and don't forget the required $1,000,000 insurance policy. That's the premium, not the coverage.

And if you want to carry hollow point bullets, there's a $100 tax per round.

And that my friends is the problem with allowing the government to regulate a right.

O2

[Limited GM]

The key word (and you noted it) is required, period, the end. Everyone SHOULD be getting as much training as possible, but everyone's access to training is different, and that shouldn't hinder one from being able to carry (I know folks that want to carry, but can't afford the current requirements to do so). At the end of the day, we just don't need the government (at any level) deciding what is best for us as it pertains to a God given, constitutionally protected right.

What other right guaranteed to us by our forefathers do we have to training before we can exercise it?

...I'd like to see curriculum added to high schools that would teach basic firearm safety and use.

I saw no reason to keep reading post after these. Sums everything up. Good posting.

[Lars]

Thank you for your responses to this thread and for keeping it civil as topics like this one can get pretty heated. So many of you have the same sentiments and feelings about this situation as I do. A lot of the arguments that I presented to the other party in this discussion where reinforced by your guys comments and I was able to take a few more to him today when we continued this conversation. I want to make it clear that the situation that I presented to you was something that the other guy came up with and I decided to present it to all of you to see if I was out of line with my responses to him or if my fellow gun guys felt as I do.

I fully feel that anything that is required will only hinder us but as a responsible gun owner and as a guy who carries i fully believe that I have to take it upon myself to continue to further my abilities and knowledge. When I carry a gun on my side, I am accepting the fact that I am willing to do whatever is necessary to protect my life from those that wish to do me harm. Some people do not fully understand the full magnitude of the decision to carry a firearms.

I believe that after over an hour of back and fourth with this guy that I may have made some headway into opening his eyes a little wider about seeing things the way we do, but we will see.