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    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukeeshaker View Post
    So he is a past felon, he isn't in jail, he is probably able to vote, drive, leave the state whenever, buy and sell, in short if he has all of his other rights restored intact why can he not own a gun? Where does it say in the 2nd that a felon that is released cannot exercise his gun rights? If he is considered dangerous when with a firearm why is he free? Should he not be incarcerated if he is a danger to the public? Thoughts?
    Essentially because he lost those rights via pleading guilty to a felony charge, thus losing them through due process as laid out in the Constitution. Im not sure i agree or disagree with how that element hangs around after the fact, but as things are now that is a condition of pleading guilty and or being convicted by a jury of your peers of a felony. There is also a mechanism to restore 2nd amendment rights after the fact, but I don't see this guy getting that restoration due to his crime demonstrating an inability to control his vengeful impulses. Then consider that in fact he has committed numerous misdemeanors and felonies since and should be arrested and charged with those crimes.

    The rest of us have lost rights via commandment from the government in spite of the restrictions of said government laid out in the Constitution.

    Point being the admitted turning a blind eye to this felon actively and openly acquiring more firearms, no matter his "good intentions" is absolutely unacceptable and people should be fired, charged and convicted on separate charges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XC700116 View Post
    Essentially because he lost those rights via pleading guilty to a felony charge, thus losing them through due process as laid out in the Constitution. Im not sure i agree or disagree with how that element hangs around after the fact, but as things are now that is a condition of pleading guilty and or being convicted by a jury of your peers of a felony. There is also a mechanism to restore 2nd amendment rights after the fact, but I don't see this guy getting that restoration due to his crime demonstrating an inability to control his vengeful impulses. Then consider that in fact he has committed numerous misdemeanors and felonies since and should be arrested and charged with those crimes.

    The rest of us have lost rights via commandment from the government in spite of the restrictions of said government laid out in the Constitution.

    Point being the admitted turning a blind eye to this felon actively and openly acquiring more firearms, no matter his "good intentions" is absolutely unacceptable and people should be fired, charged and convicted on separate charges.

    In Colorado a felon convicted here cannot get their gun rights restored without a Govenors pardon. Know several good people who have tried to get them restored to no avail. Especially when we have had Ritter and Poopinlicker back to back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by battle_sight_zero View Post
    In Colorado a felon convicted here cannot get their gun rights restored without a Govenors pardon. Know several good people who have tried to get them restored to no avail. Especially when we have had Ritter and Poopinlicker back to back.
    In many states, if you can get the court to reduce your original offense to a misdemeanor, often possible depending on severity and first time offender, then have the misdemeanor expunged, you can fully restore your rights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by battle_sight_zero View Post
    In Colorado a felon convicted here cannot get their gun rights restored without a Govenors pardon. Know several good people who have tried to get them restored to no avail. Especially when we have had Ritter and Poopinlicker back to back.
    I know its not easy, and not certain of what it takes here (I grew up in MN) as I honestly find it much easier to keep my own house clean.

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