Militia takes over Malheur National Wildlife Refuge headquarters

[Zombie Steve]

Anyone keeping tabs on Janet Reno and Lon Horiuchi?

[osok-308]

I will say that it is completely screwed up to sentence someone, have them serve their time and then after the fact go "Whoops, we should have sentenced you more than we did so you'll have to go back to jail." Other than that, I don't know what else to say other than this is interesting and I will be watching closely.

I for sure don't know all of the details on the judge sentencing. Sounds crappy at best.

As far as the Bundy thing, it sounds like someone is trying to jump on the media coverage of two other ranchers because the Bundys did not get enough fame. I don't see this ending well.

[osok-308]

http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/u...o-the-compound

Just found this, which is why I don't see this ending well.

[Skip]

Well I guess the blm and fws get to try out their new swat teams... What can go wrong?

Sent by a free-range electronic weasel, with no sense of personal space.

Everything.

Which makes me wonder why this is happening. The Hammonds have asked everyone to stand down and are surrendering. If they want to fight, now is the time, yet they aren't.

Ammon Bundy's grievances are questionable, IMHO. He's the one running with this and it's not even his fight.

The Hammonds have been railroaded after decades of harassment. They took a plea deal on arson charges which FedGov then reneged and demanded a full sentence on an accidental burn of one acre (according to my understanding). We all know how many gov prescribed burns have gone out of control in our state, sometimes getting people killed. Anyone recall any charges being laid?

These guys are being prosecuted as if they burned hundreds of acres. Hell, the Hayman fire arsonist got a 12 year sentence which was reduced to six years and people died!

All of that set aside, this is certain to accomplish nothing positive while entangling the Hammonds in Bundy's nonsense. I hope it ends quickly and safely, but I'm afraid it won't.

[Zombie Steve]

http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/u...o-the-compound

Just found this, which is why I don't see this ending well.

Of course it won't end well. They're already calling it a "compound".

If you're going to burn people up, shoot them in the head or drop a bomb on a house in the middle of Philadelphia, it's easier to accept if:

Mt. Carmel Center Ranch is called the "Branch Davidian Compound"
The Weaver residence is called the "Weaver Compound"
MOVE row house is called the "MOVE Compound".

You get the idea. It can't happen here.

[HoneyBadger]

Seems like the best outcome for the government would be to basically ignore this group. By acknowledging/confronting them and either giving or denying them what they want, the government is bringing attention to them and lending them legitimacy. If the feds completely pretended like this was Fast and Furious and the media ignored them, the protesters would get tired, bored, hungry, and eventually run out of resources and the will to fight. If I was a totalitarian government, that is one option I would consider. The other option is to start a few "controlled burns" around that area and then blame it on the protesters and call it a cult suicide.

What really bothers me about this is the incredible number of people that are calling for the outright MURDER of these protesters at the hands of the government. That should scare the piss out of all of us.

[blacklabel]

What really bothers me about this is the incredible number of people that are calling for the outright MURDER of these protesters at the hands of the government. That should scare the piss out of all of us.

That's the damn truth.

[BushMasterBoy]

Good place for a F-22 to do a supersonic low level pass...

[HoneyBadger]

It does look like a nice place to set up camp for a the long haul.

[Great-Kazoo]

What really bothers me about this is the incredible number of people that are calling for the outright MURDER of these protesters at the hands of the government. That should scare the piss out of all of us.

They're doing that because to them. The whole deal is RACIST. "They" are wanting to know why the national guard was called to Ferguson and BMo to deal with "Protesters", but not for this "WHITE protest".

What these precious snowflakes, safe zone sensitive types forget is . Ferguson & BMo are rioters, looters and general low lifes burning, looting, committing acts against the LE's. This is a bunch of white guys staging a protest in a government owned place. SAME THING ERIC HOLDER DID, many a year back. . Nothing being burned to the ground (yet) rocks, shots fired at LE and NG personnel

IMO the Bundys are loose cannons. Then again there's different levels and definitions of Patriot. You decide what's what.