41P signed and passed

[SA Friday]

As I read it, all trustees of a trust or owners of an LLC have to now submit photos, fingerprints, and 5320.23's along with the rest the package. They run a background on this info when processing the package. CLEO certify the FPs and photos are the person and no known disqualifying info locally on each trustee/LLC member. This isn't CLEO certification, as I read it this can be delegated. Problem is many sheriff's offices will refuse to accomplish the administrative tasks or back burner the requests for months. Anyone see Denver Sheriffs doing this? So, now someone HAS to sue a sheriff for infringement before the rest will get it. Also probably means no more digital filing of form 1s and no future filing of form 4s.

He just made a mess with this one. This could take a while to clear up.

[Ramsker]

So it's only a "notification" of CLEO and not sign-off? It would be a pain in the azz to jump through the hoops, but if that's true . . . then at least it would eliminate what I was most concerned about in that I had heard the Douglas County sheriffs have traditionally refused to sign off on NFA items. Will have to try to grind through the info and would welcome some expert interpretations.

But good grief . . anything to make it harder, more frustrating, more expensive, etc for the people who aren't the problem. Such a screw job from the bureaucrats and progressives.

[brutal]

So it's only a "notification" of CLEO and not sign-off? It would be a pain in the azz to jump through the hoops, but if that's true . . . then at least it would eliminate what I was most concerned about in that I had heard the Douglas County sheriffs have traditionally refused to sign off on NFA items. Will have to try to grind through the info and would welcome some expert interpretations.

But good grief . . anything to make it harder, more frustrating, more expensive, etc for the people who aren't the problem. Such a screw job from the bureaucrats and progressives.

RE: DougCo. Weaver wouldn't sign NFA. New sheriff is reported to have done so.

[SA Friday]

NO ITS NOT ONLY NOTIFICATION!!!!!!

READ THE FUCKING DOCUMENT.

HEY, READ MY POST EVEN... then read the document. WTF?

[SA Friday]

RE: DougCo. Weaver wouldn't sign NFA. New sheriff is reported to have done so.

Not that I ever saw, but he might have started after I got out of the Class III business about a year ago.

[brutal]

Not that I ever saw, but he might have started after I got out of the Class III business about a year ago.

Spurlock was not signing off? I believe, even though he ran essentially unopposed, that was a campaign promise.

[HoneyBadger]

When the actions of reasonable men are outlawed, reasonable men become outlaws.

How much more of this bullshit is everyone going to continue to put up with?

[Rooskibar03]

Is it too late to submit forms tonight? Fuck!

I had one sitting in draft status that I paid for and submitted about 2 hours ago.

guess I'll be hunting for a supressors or two tomorrow.

[SA Friday]

Spurlock was not signing off? I believe, even though he ran essentially unopposed, that was a campaign promise.

Weaver said the same shit when he ran too. Spurlock was a Weaver underling as I understand it.

I think convincing Spurlock to do this would be minor compared to the Denver Sheriff. I would lump the last Adams County sheriff in there too, but he's gone now. Arapahoe was't signing off on any last I checked also. Someone will have to be sued or this will have to has an injunction against it before it gets cleared up.

Funny, this EO has huge errors in it too. It states that they know the NFA transfer requires a 4473 and NICS before completing the transfer. Not true, the 4473 clearly states NFA transfers require a 4473 completed but no NICS is accomplished. Says it right there on page two.

AND another thing. fingerprint cards (blue cards) have a certification block for the person taking the fingerprints to sign and print their name certifying the FPs are of who they say they are. If submitting cards and photos, why would anything more be required? Any info stopping a gun sale is required by law to be entered into NCIC under Brady.

Has anyone involved in writing this POS actually every gone through any of these processes? This is just stupid.

[brutal]

While a bunch of you have eyes on this thread, let me pop an unrelated question since I'm going to scramble submit two more form1 SBR's ASAP.

I just got my first DIY can Form1 back. What is everyone listing as manufacturer for DIY cans on their schedule A? The name of the trust? Or the name shown on the approved Form1 which is FORM1 REGISTRATION, UNITED STATES?

What say the hive?