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    Default Homicides in Denver hit 9-year high

    Homicides in Denver hit 9-year high with 50 people killed in 2015

    http://extras.denverpost.com/homicides/2015/


    The "high" is 50 for 2015 which puts the city/county at the 2006 level (51). Typical statistics provided by race, gang, and cause (37 by firearms). In 22 of the cases no arrest has been made (44%). Still a long way to go to the 90s and whatever happened in 2004 that caused it to spike to 87.

    No comment section for me to point out the 2013 gun laws, with selective LE presence/enforcement, are making a difference.

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    So, our black community has a gang violence problem. How does legislation against law abiding citizens fix this problem? Sounds like common sense gang legislation would be more productive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ah Pook View Post
    So, our black community has a gang violence problem. How does legislation against law abiding citizens fix this problem? Sounds like common sense gang legislation would be more productive.
    So do you starch that white hood or just press it?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Monky View Post
    So do you starch that white hood or just press it?


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    Not a racist comment when gang attributed murders are 46% of the total count

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    Quote Originally Posted by funkymonkey1111 View Post
    Not a racist comment when gang attributed murders are 46% of the total count
    Actually yes it was. It does not state that one minority homicide rate is higher than the other. If you read the list, you're hard pressed to say black or brown on a lot of them. Gang related yes... One color no. Still a racist fucking comment


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    Quote Originally Posted by Monky View Post
    Actually yes it was. It does not state that one minority homicide rate is higher than the other. If you read the list, you're hard pressed to say black or brown on a lot of them. Gang related yes... One color no. Still a racist fucking comment


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    ok, is the black homicide victims at 58% racist?

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    The race stats are in the story which also mentions Denver's gang problem. Gang related homicides make up 23 of the 50, so nearly half like Funky said. I don't know how they made that determination because "snitches get stiches" and such.

    By race (from the story)...

    28 (56%) Black
    12 (24%) Hispanic
    10 (20%) White

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Denver

    Population of Denver: ~650K

    65% White
    31% Hispanic (overlapping)
    11% Black

    Rates, derived by population, per 100,000...

    2.367 White
    5.955 Hispanic
    39.161 Black

    Hispanic rate is 2.5x higher than White (overlapping population numbers increase the denominator, lowering this rate)
    Black rate is 16.5x higher than White, 6.5x higher than Hispanic.

    My numbers could be off and so could my sources. So assume some error that probably doesn't change the overall discrepancies.

    If people (Liberals, politicians, Demanding Mothers, etc...) were genuinely concerned about violence (gun or otherwise) this would be examined. My personal belief is that this has to do with culture and values than race. But that examination is often called "racist" as well because the culture identifies along racial boundaries (which is actually racist but seldom is that mentioned).

    Saddest thing in this story is a couple of the names on the list...

    Javion Johnson, 1
    Karla Garcia, 1
    So we can't talk about this because "racist?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monky View Post
    So do you starch that white hood or just press it?


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    I was not trying to be racist. Sorry if it came across that way. A part of "our" community has a statically higher than average problem with crime and violence. What is being done to stem this tide?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monky View Post
    So do you starch that white hood or just press it?


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    i think I laughed entirely too long at that comment

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