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    The race stats are in the story which also mentions Denver's gang problem. Gang related homicides make up 23 of the 50, so nearly half like Funky said. I don't know how they made that determination because "snitches get stiches" and such.

    By race (from the story)...

    28 (56%) Black
    12 (24%) Hispanic
    10 (20%) White

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Denver

    Population of Denver: ~650K

    65% White
    31% Hispanic (overlapping)
    11% Black

    Rates, derived by population, per 100,000...

    2.367 White
    5.955 Hispanic
    39.161 Black

    Hispanic rate is 2.5x higher than White (overlapping population numbers increase the denominator, lowering this rate)
    Black rate is 16.5x higher than White, 6.5x higher than Hispanic.

    My numbers could be off and so could my sources. So assume some error that probably doesn't change the overall discrepancies.

    If people (Liberals, politicians, Demanding Mothers, etc...) were genuinely concerned about violence (gun or otherwise) this would be examined. My personal belief is that this has to do with culture and values than race. But that examination is often called "racist" as well because the culture identifies along racial boundaries (which is actually racist but seldom is that mentioned).

    Saddest thing in this story is a couple of the names on the list...

    Javion Johnson, 1
    Karla Garcia, 1
    So we can't talk about this because "racist?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monky View Post
    So do you starch that white hood or just press it?


    Sent by a free-range electronic weasel, with no sense of personal space.
    I was not trying to be racist. Sorry if it came across that way. A part of "our" community has a statically higher than average problem with crime and violence. What is being done to stem this tide?
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    So those high capacity clip bans are working. It would be so much higher if the wizards of smart hadn't passed those "sensible gun laws".
    Armageddon was yesterday, today we have a real problem.

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    Homicides in Denver hit 9-year high with 50 people killed in 2015

    ...so...WE NEED MORE GUN CONTROL!!!!

    You know that's how they'll spin it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monky View Post
    So do you starch that white hood or just press it?


    Sent by a free-range electronic weasel, with no sense of personal space.

    i think I laughed entirely too long at that comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by crays View Post
    Homicides in Denver hit 9-year high with 50 people killed in 2015

    ...so...WE NEED MORE GUN CONTROL!!!!

    You know that's how they'll spin it.

    That's a given. Even more so when (if one has the homepage set to yahoo) evey 3rd byline is another GUN VIOLENCE, CONTROL, First person stories. Of course with out fail. Everyone of them has the usual (SURPRISE) WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT guns. Never a mention how said killers get them (other than Lax access to internet gun ) With of course the usual. No one want's To Take away Your Gun, right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skip View Post
    Homicides in Denver hit 9-year high with 50 people killed in 2015

    http://extras.denverpost.com/homicides/2015/


    The "high" is 50 for 2015 which puts the city/county at the 2006 level (51). Typical statistics provided by race, gang, and cause (37 by firearms). In 22 of the cases no arrest has been made (44%). Still a long way to go to the 90s and whatever happened in 2004 that caused it to spike to 87.

    No comment section for me to point out the 2013 gun laws, with selective LE presence/enforcement, are making a difference.
    Liberal city and it's inside a now liberal state. We can look at examples around the country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SamuraiCO View Post
    So those high capacity clip bans are working. It would be so much higher if the wizards of smart hadn't passed those "sensible gun laws".
    Well, you know, we should be just about out of those high capacity clips because y'know, they can't be reused ... DeGette said so!

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    But the govenator said we would be safer!

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    YEAH BUT YOU GUYZ, JUST IMAGINE HOW MUCH WORSE IT WOULD BE IF THEY ALL HAD INFINITE CAPACITY CLIPAZINES AND DIDN'T GO THROUGH BACKGROUND CHECKS?!
    ZOMG!
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    If there's nothing wrong with having to show an ID to buy a gun, there's nothing wrong with having to show an ID to vote.

    For legal reasons, that's a joke.

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