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    Default Dude gets tied up, breaks free, shoots bad guys

    http://www.9news.com/story/news/loca...shot/79265402/



    JEFFERSON COUNTY - One person was shot and killed in Littleton Sunday morning following a robbery attempt.

    The incident happened on the 5400 block of South Taft Court. The Jefferson County Sheriff's Office says the homeowner was trying to sell an item on Craigslist when the two men who responded tried to rob him. The homeowner was tied up but broke free and confronted the suspects with a gun.
    One man was shot while driving away and he crashed into a house after losing control of the car. He died a short time later.
    Another suspect is still at large in a gold Mustang. It may have bullet holes in the side.
    Glad he got them. Hope they don't file charges against the good guy for shooting at the cars. If someone ties you up in your own home you should get a few free shots at them, no questions asked.

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    It'll be interesting to see what the DA decides to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc45 View Post
    It'll be interesting to see what the DA decides to do.
    Yeah, I would not want to be in the "victims" shoes.
    It seems pretty clear the perps were retreating, not the right time to be dropping the hammer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BPTactical View Post
    Yeah, I would not want to be in the "victims" shoes.
    It seems pretty clear the perps were retreating, not the right time to be dropping the hammer.
    Exactly.

    Hopefully he won't get charged. He was tied up after all, that has to be worth something.

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    What was he selling? less then a mile from my house. wow
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    Please let forum members be on the jury, if there ever is a stupid trial.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BushMasterBoy View Post
    Please let forum members be on the jury, if there ever is a stupid trial.
    No it's not. Based off a brief news story, he was shooting at a threat that already left. They cover any of Use of Deadly Force in your CCW class?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo View Post
    No it's not. Based off a brief news story, he was shooting at a threat that already left. They cover any of Use of Deadly Force in your CCW class?
    I don't necessarily disagree and I'm really familiar with the law. HOWEVER...

    There is a precedent for this scenario being a justifiable shooting under the "Make My Day" law. Not that I'd want to chance it with a jury myself. But the 2004 case of Gary Lee Hill is very similar:

    The women returned with Padilla’s boyfriend, Knott, and Ash’s boyfriend, Anthony Padilla. The four went to Hill’s basement room where he was asleep and assaulted him. Amanda Padilla punched Hill in the head, opening a wound with brass knuckles. When they left Hill’s house, he got a high-powered rifle, loaded it and fired once from the porch into the car Knott was driving. Knott crashed the car into a house and died of a gunshot wound to the back. The jury foreman, who asked not to be identified, said jurors spent a lot of time discussing the law that allows people to use lethal force against an intruder. “That was the bulk of our deliberation,” he said. The foreman said the Make My Day law offers no clear “line” where an intruder must be before deadly force can be used. (emphasis mine) “We hope everyone understands this was a tragic case no matter what verdict we reached. There was no good outcome,” he said.
    Source: http://gazette.com/springs-man-acqui...w/article/9201

    This was a very controversial case at the time that resulted in much talk about changing the law. Fortunately, it wasn't changed.

    And the jury was correct. There isn't any thing in the statute that says force must be used against the intruder inside the home or in any other particular location.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    I don't necessarily disagree and I'm really familiar with the law. HOWEVER...

    There is a precedent for this scenario being a justifiable shooting under the "Make My Day" law. Not that I'd want to chance it with a jury myself. But the 2004 case of Gary Lee Hill is very similar:



    Source: http://gazette.com/springs-man-acqui...w/article/9201

    This was a very controversial case at the time that resulted in much talk about changing the law. Fortunately, it wasn't changed.

    And the jury was correct. There isn't any thing in the statute that says force must be used against the intruder inside the home or in any other particular location.
    That was a One Shot versus multiple shots fired . Until "we" know the full story, I'll avoid armchair QB'ing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo View Post
    No it's not. Based off a brief news story, he was shooting at a threat that already left. They cover any of Use of Deadly Force in your CCW class?
    In the interest of national security, the above not apply.
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