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    I'm still a little mind-blowed about the notion of a "law enforcement outlaw club."

    How is membership in an "outlaw motorcycle gang" not grounds for being fired from your LE job?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martinjmpr View Post
    I'm still a little mind-blowed about the notion of a "law enforcement outlaw club."

    How is membership in an "outlaw motorcycle gang" not grounds for being fired from your LE job?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martinjmpr View Post
    I'm still a little mind-blowed about the notion of a "law enforcement outlaw club."

    How is membership in an "outlaw motorcycle gang" not grounds for being fired from your LE job?
    They would have to know about it first...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hurley842002 View Post
    They would have to know about it first...
    With the amount of surveillance one supposedly has on OMG's, it wouldn't be hard to review photos. Maybe they're the domestic terrorist and not returning veterans?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hurley842002 View Post
    They would have to know about it first...
    So cops don't have to periodically do background checks after they're hired? In the Army I had to update my clearance every 5 years.

    Quote Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo View Post
    With the amount of surveillance one supposedly has on OMG's, it wouldn't be hard to review photos. Maybe they're the domestic terrorist and not returning veterans?
    Yeah, if the ATF is saying this is an outlaw gang and has LEOs in it, shouldn't the ATF be providing those agencies with a list of known or suspected members? Seems like a pretty easy thing to do, ATF provides the list, cop/gang member gets called into the chief's/sheriif's office. Show him surveillance photo in gang cut. "Is this you?" "Yes." "Turn in your badge and gun. You're fired."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martinjmpr View Post
    So cops don't have to periodically do background checks after they're hired? In the Army I had to update my clearance every 5 years.



    Yeah, if the ATF is saying this is an outlaw gang and has LEOs in it, shouldn't the ATF be providing those agencies with a list of known or suspected members? Seems like a pretty easy thing to do, ATF provides the list, cop/gang member gets called into the chief's/sheriif's office. Show him surveillance photo in gang cut. "Is this you?" "Yes." "Turn in your badge and gun. You're fired."
    Some agencies do periodic background checks, some don't. As it pertains to the guy in the shooting, it's the DOC, the only time his background would come into question after initial clearance, is if he got into trouble after being hired.

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    Agency I work for does a background during job title changes or position changes. I'm not sure what they would do if an existing employee doesn't pass all of the sudden? Do you keep your old job position or what?

    We're obviously told to Notify management if something happens on a personal level. DUI, court case and various things like that.

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    DOC isn't really "law enforcement" if you ask me. I mean, which laws is it they actively enforce?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ray1970 View Post
    DOC isn't really "law enforcement" if you ask me. I mean, which laws is it they actively enforce?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ray1970 View Post
    DOC isn't really "law enforcement" if you ask me.
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    employee assigned by the executive director, is a peace officer while engaged in the performance
    of his or her duties pursuant to title 17, C.R.S., whose primary authority is the supervision of
    persons in the custody or confinement of the department of corrections and who may be certified
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