Arapahoe County

[yz9890]

Does Arapahoe county sign or am I going to need a trust to suppress and sbr?

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[Monky]

You're going to want a trust


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[lex137]

Get a trust and put everyone and there moms on it before July or wait till after and you won't need his sign off. The cleo will not sign off on nfa items.

[yz9890]

Get a trust and put everyone and there moms on it before July or wait till after and you won't need his sign off. The cleo will not sign off on nfa items.

What happens in July?


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[lex137]

https://www.ar-15.co/threads/153579-...ned-and-passed

[Brian]

So, I'll offer the contrary view here. Prior to passage of 41F (hopefully you read that other thread now), everyone in the business of selling/transferring suppressors, including me, etc. recommended a trust. It was a no-brainer.

Now, with the upcoming changes, it really comes down to what it should have been about in the first place. If it makes sense for you to have an estate planning tool that takes into account multiple users, inheritance, etc. then it makes sense to pay a lawyer and get a quality trust drawn up and do all your title 2 stuff on that. If on the other hand that's not something that you are concerned about, then I would go the individual route, as it will be cheaper. No LEO sign off will be required in a few months - you'll likely be able to process forms as soon as the new forms are released (lots of back and forth from ATF on this lately).

Side note, but there's likely zero reason now to go with a "budget" trust. It used to be guys just needed a trust to get the cans, not that they actually cared how it was written up. Doesn't mean the trust work has to be expensive, but there were a lot of crappy trusts out there that were cut and pasted off of internet forums.

[Great-Kazoo]

So, I'll offer the contrary view here. Prior to passage of 41F (hopefully you read that other thread now), everyone in the business of selling/transferring suppressors, including me, etc. recommended a trust. It was a no-brainer.

Now, with the upcoming changes, it really comes down to what it should have been about in the first place. If it makes sense for you to have an estate planning tool that takes into account multiple users, inheritance, etc. then it makes sense to pay a lawyer and get a quality trust drawn up and do all your title 2 stuff on that. If on the other hand that's not something that you are concerned about, then I would go the individual route, as it will be cheaper. No LEO sign off will be required in a few months - you'll likely be able to process forms as soon as the new forms are released (lots of back and forth from ATF on this lately).

Side note, but there's likely zero reason now to go with a "budget" trust. It used to be guys just needed a trust to get the cans, not that they actually cared how it was written up. Doesn't mean the trust work has to be expensive, but there were a lot of crappy trusts out there that were cut and pasted off of internet forums.

Not going the trust route after 7/1/16. There's the question of What happens to my NFA items when i die?? The short answer is

1: When you die who ever you designated to handle the NFA items. Those can be transferred to them without having to pay $200 per,by using a Form 5

https://www.atf.gov/file/11371/download

2: Have a will, sooner than later. If there's more than 1 child, family member who "believes" they are the one entitled to your NFA items, Or any gun. Having it laid out while you're in a competent state of mind, hopefully minimizes any butt hurt afterward. Cause we all know NO ONE EVER contest a will, ever.

[yz9890]

Good info. Thanks guys.


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