Trump carries

[davsel]

He attempted to steal a gun. He never actually attempted to harm Trump. Attempted theft does not equal attempted assassination.

He never even came close to attempting to harm him.

This dude is obviously insane. But there is no way he gets convicted of attempted murder.

He was stopped in the act of trying to assassinate Trump. He was near enough to take the shot and had his hands on a cop's gun in order to take the shot.
He has confessed to his intentions.

At what point would it be considered an assassination attempt? When he aims? When he takes the shot?
What if he had somehow brought in his own gun and was stopped as he drew it from his pocket. Would that be considered an assassination attempt?

Not worth arguing about, just curious as to where you draw the line.

I suspect he'll be shipped back to the UK at taxpayer's expense and that will be the last we hear of it.

ETA: http://www.legalmatch.com/law-librar...r-lawyers.html

What Is Attempted Murder?
The definition for attempted murder occurs when an individual has an actual intent to carry out a murder or killing of another and takes a substantial step toward the commission of that the killing. The crime of attempted murder will be committed even though the actual killing did not occurred and the defendant failed to complete the crime. Some states will charge a defendant for attempted murder even if the defendant had the intent to commit the murder and started preparation to commit the crime.

Because attempt crimes are always incomplete because the actual crime falls short, establishing intent that the person had the mindset of completing the intended crime is the main element to secure a conviction.

Elements of Attempted Murder
Attempted murder is a very serious criminal charge. To be convicted of attempted murder, prosecutors must be able to prove:

• Deliberate or reckless behavior with extreme disregard for human life
• An intention to actually kill someone
• Substantial evidence that considerable steps were made to commit murder

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/arrest-...plan-1.3644760

A complaint filed Monday in U.S. District Court in Nevada charges Sandford, 20, with an act of violence on restricted grounds.

[Great-Kazoo]

He attempted to steal a gun. He never actually attempted to harm Trump. Attempted theft does not equal attempted assassination.

He never even came close to attempting to harm him.

This dude is obviously insane. But there is no way he gets convicted of attempted murder.

The headlines would read


RIGHT WING GUN OWNERS CLINTON ASSASSINATION ATTEMPT FOILED.



If this happened at a HRC rally. You bet there would be wall - wall coverage. Right down to his school year babysitters.

[Joe_K]

He attempted to steal a gun. He never actually attempted to harm Trump. Attempted theft does not equal attempted assassination.

He never even came close to attempting to harm him.

This dude is obviously insane. But there is no way he gets convicted of attempted murder.

I'm sure this High School Honor Student was going to only steal this cops gun.

https://youtu.be/WEpj5anY2vg

Velocitas, Opprimere,
Violentia Operandi

[TFOGGER]

He'll probably be given a cabinet post in the next Clinton administration...

[hurley842002]

Didn't see anything about this on the forum:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016...ning-mate.html

I know nothing about the guy, didn't even recognize his name.

[roberth]

Pence is the VP choice, does Pence carry?

[davsel]

Pence is the VP choice, does Pence carry?

Not sure if he personally carries, but he has a good record on the 2nd Amendment:

http://www.inquisitr.com/3313282/ind...n-gun-control/
https://www.romper.com/p/what-are-mi...-the-nra-14355

http://www.range365.com/where-trump-...stands-on-guns

Pence is a believer that gun ownership increases public safety. He was quoted in the 2016 State of the State speech to the Indiana legislature on Jan. 12 as saying, “In the wake of the terrorist attack on a recruiting station in Chattanooga, Tennessee, I'm proud to say that Indiana was among the first states to allow our National Guard to carry firearms at all recruiting stations. Hoosiers know firearms in the hands of law abiding citizens--including our National Guard--makes our communities more safe, not less safe. Indiana will always defend the right to keep and bear arms.”He also voted yes for a bill to prohibit civil liability actions from being brought or continued against gun manufacturers, distributors, dealers, or importers of firearms or ammunition for damages resulting from the misuse of their products by others. It’s basically the opposite of Hillary Clinton’s position that gun makers and sellers should be open to lawsuits from say the victims of crimes committed with their products.

Not surprisingly, he has an A rating from the NRA, indicating an extended pro-gun rights voting record, the site says.

Pence also signed HR 197&S.845, which establishes a national standard for concealed carry by non-residents. Basically, the bill says that if you have a concealed carry permit in one state, and aren’t prohibited by any federal laws from possessing a firearm, then you can carry in any other state—a sort of blanket reciprocity.

He has also commended the NRA for its development of the Eddie Eagle GunSafe Program, which has taught 23,000,000 children gun safety.

Some other pro-gun actions Pence has taken:
Co-sponsored Firearms Interstate Commerce Reform Act, which loosened restrictions on interstate gun purchases.
Co-Sponsored the Veteran’s Heritage Firearms Act, which allows veterans to register unlicensed firearms acquired abroad.
Co-sponsored a bill banning gun registration and trigger lock law in Washington D.C.

[roberth]

Thank you davsel.

[Bmac]

I haven't looked at this post in a while. Glad to see many of you have seen the light. Sorry to see that a few of you will make like you pull for the GOP, but like last time, will pull for socialism. You know who you are... Sleeper cells

[kidicarus13]

There are only 2 choices for POTUS this upcoming election. Vote wisely.