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    The bankruptcy BS is just playing on the economic ignorance of the general public.

    The US debt is incorrectly portrayed by the lying media.

    The U.S. debt is more than $19 trillion. Most headlines focus on how much the U.S. owes China, which is one of the largest foreign owners. Fewer people know that the Social Security Trust Fund, aka yourretirement money, owns most of the national debt.
    https://www.thebalance.com/who-owns-...l-debt-3306124
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    Well done

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    Has anyone seen even ONE Trump ad on the major networks? Hillary's various front groups keep hammering away and Trump seems to be silent. We're a major battleground state but Trump doesn't think it's worth it to try and win here?

    Just reinforces my belief that Trump doesn't really want to win. He wants the publicity, but he doesn't want the job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martinjmpr View Post
    Has anyone seen even ONE Trump ad on the major networks? Hillary's various front groups keep hammering away and Trump seems to be silent. We're a major battleground state but Trump doesn't think it's worth it to try and win here?

    Just reinforces my belief that Trump doesn't really want to win. He wants the publicity, but he doesn't want the job.
    Who's he going to work with in a state where the Republican leadership handed the nomination to Cruz without a vote?
    That fact alone should boost his turnout in November more than any TV ads.
    Does anyone pay attention to TV ads anymore?

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    Quote Originally Posted by davsel View Post
    Who's he going to work with in a state where the Republican leadership handed the nomination to Cruz without a vote?
    That fact alone should boost his turnout in November more than any TV ads.
    Does anyone pay attention to TV ads anymore?

    Lets not forget the RNC tossing Glen aside.

    You either support ALL CANDIDATES or none. This cherry picking who they support money wise is bullshit. One more reason this election cycle will be the death of the R party.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davsel View Post
    Who's he going to work with in a state where the Republican leadership handed the nomination to Cruz without a vote?
    That fact alone should boost his turnout in November more than any TV ads.
    Does anyone pay attention to TV ads anymore?
    You need to stop perpetuating this lie. Colorado had a caucus and has for quite some time. Nobody accused Colorado of not having a vote before this year, even though, at the core, caucuses in years past operated much the same.

    The people who showed up to caucus had their voices heard and the majority opinions at each caucus elected delegates whom supported the same candidate as them.

    No, there were no binding votes, but that point is moot. The delegates voted for the majority opinion caucus goers by proxy at the convention. Thats how the system is setup.

    You think the caucus and convention issue will boost voter turnout? The system didn't motivate Trump supporters to bother to show up to caucus, so I'm not so sure that will be a motivator to turn out for the general either.

    But here's the kicker. The caucuses sent Cruz supporting delegates to the convention, but because their votes were not bound, they had the freedom to vote for Trump. Very few made that choice however because Trump flat out ignored our state...he didnt even bother to show up. He didn't get Colorado delegates because he didn't earn them.

    You want a vote? Show up to the caucus next time or start a petition to change back to a primary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hollohas View Post
    You need to stop perpetuating this lie. Colorado had a caucus and has for quite some time. Nobody accused Colorado of not having a vote before this year, even though, at the core, caucuses in years past operated much the same.

    The people who showed up to caucus had their voices heard and the majority opinions at each caucus elected delegates whom supported the same candidate as them.

    No, there were no binding votes, but that point is moot. The delegates voted for the majority opinion caucus goers by proxy at the convention. Thats how the system is setup.

    You think the caucus and convention issue will boost voter turnout? The system didn't motivate Trump supporters to bother to show up to caucus, so I'm not so sure that will be a motivator to turn out for the general either.

    But here's the kicker. The caucuses sent Cruz supporting delegates to the convention, but because their votes were not bound, they had the freedom to vote for Trump. Very few made that choice however because Trump flat out ignored our state...he didnt even bother to show up. He didn't get Colorado delegates because he didn't earn them.

    You want a vote? Show up to the caucus next time or start a petition to change back to a primary.
    So full of fail, I don't even know where to start.
    Here's one of the better articles explaining the last minute changes made for the 2016 primary season. You know, the one where they took the vote away from the people of Colorado:
    http://www.denverpost.com/2015/08/25...t-2016-caucus/
    The move makes Colorado the only state so far to forfeit a role in the early nomination process, according to political experts, but other caucus states are still considering how to adapt to the new rule.

    “It takes Colorado completely off the map” in the primary season, said Ryan Call, a former state GOP chairman.

    Republicans still will hold precinct caucus meetings in early 2016 to begin the process of selecting delegates for the national convention — but the 37 delegates are not pledged to any specific candidate.
    For Republicans, no declared winner means the caucus will lack much of its hype. The presidential campaigns still may try to win delegate slots for their supporters, but experts say the move makes it less likely that candidates will visit Colorado to court voters.
    How bout starting a "Cruz for President 2016" thread. I'm sure it will be enlightening.
    Cruz is going to lose his seat in Texas to Perry. Followed by much wailing and gnashing of teeth.
    The icing on the cake will be when President Trump gets him deported back to Canada.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hollohas View Post
    You want a vote? Show up to the caucus next time or start a petition to change back to a primary.
    Start a petition? I thought that was what I-140 is all about, unless I am misunderstanding you?

    The Presidential Primary Election Initiative (I-140) Initiative 140 would restore presidential primary elections held before the end of March and make them open in Colorado. Currently, Colorado utilizes a closed primary system, in which only registered party members may participate in a party's primary. However, unaffiliated voters may choose to affiliate with a party on Election Day in order to vote in that party's primary.

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    Radio today said he just purchased $10M in advertising in battleground states including CO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hollohas View Post
    Radio today said he just purchased $10M in advertising in battleground states including CO.
    Also saw this on the news, while HRC pulled all funding from Colorado.

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