Trump carries

[Irving]

Yah, I suppose.

The problem is that those people formerly employed by Ford et al, aren't entitled to be in the middle class, we have to earn it every day and they quit earning it when the union rules and protections allowed them to slack off and still receive raises and bonuses. People forget that the corporation's first responsibility is to the stockholders, not the workers, and when the workers price themselves out of the market the company will move its operations to a more suitable financial climate.

The really sad thing is that a bunch of Mexicans will do the same job and probably do it better than the supposedly superior Americans. These moves are the results of Americans becoming too comfortable and complacent, we see this complacency everywhere. I'm guilty too which is why I've changed the way I that I approach and perform my job, it sucks, it eats up my free time for no immediate monetary benefit but I am once again proving to my employer that I'm willing to do what they need when they need it. I've rested on my laurels long enough, time to get back at it.

Time to lean is time to clean. Better get back to work chump!





Kidding of course. You've done a good job highlighting the way that Trump traps people into supporting him. It's funny because I've been pointing this out this whole election, and nearly fell into the trap myself.

While listening to the Michael Moore speech, I was focusing on Trump standing up to auto executives and telling them how he'll tariff their vehicles if they move factories out of the US. On the surface, that sounds very pro American, but of course there is much more to the story. I gave no thought to the fact that auto employees are heavily unionized and how those same companies spent decades putting out mediocre products. Trump gets his popularity by saying exactly what people want to hear, and not much more. His whole campaign is all surface with little depth. If someone created a bot to pull one liners from what people on this site alone have said, and gave them to a public figure to spout out in measured intervals, you'd have the Trump run for presidency. We can see this in his most recent display of saying that the election is rigged.

So, Robert, good job keeping me in line and reminding me that this wasn't as compelling as I had thought.

[davsel]

[Great-Kazoo]

We can see this in his most recent display of saying that the election is rigged.

He's correct. It's been rigged for years since HRC stepped aside for Obama. Where (tin foil time) Obama's team said step aside and after my term[s] i will support your run for office. Combined with the facts of the DNC screwing Sanders from day 1. Should be enough for even the simplest of thinkers to see it's true.Factor in the medias complicity and one knows how bad the system is.

[roberth]

Time to lean is time to clean. Better get back to work chump!

Yes sir!!

Kidding of course. You've done a good job highlighting the way that Trump traps people into supporting him. It's funny because I've been pointing this out this whole election, and nearly fell into the trap myself.

While listening to the Michael Moore speech, I was focusing on Trump standing up to auto executives and telling them how he'll tariff their vehicles if they move factories out of the US. On the surface, that sounds very pro American, but of course there is much more to the story. I gave no thought to the fact that auto employees are heavily unionized and how those same companies spent decades putting out mediocre products. Trump gets his popularity by saying exactly what people want to hear, and not much more. His whole campaign is all surface with little depth. If someone created a bot to pull one liners from what people on this site alone have said, and gave them to a public figure to spout out in measured intervals, you'd have the Trump run for presidency. We can see this in his most recent display of saying that the election is rigged.

So, Robert, good job keeping me in line and reminding me that this wasn't as compelling as I had thought.

Thank you for the kudos.

Your definition, which I highlighted, is exactly what Trump and his campaign is, just a reflection of the dumbing down of America.

If more Americans took an interest in politics the way many of us on this board do we might be voting for a Cruz/Paul/Fiorina ticket vs the communists.

[Irving]

I think that's more "politics" than it is "rigged. "

[Dave_L]

Trump is here because of politicians and the media.

[roberth]

Trump is here because of politicians and the media.

I disagree.

Trump is here because Americans value celebrity more than substance.

[Jamnanc]

Trump is here because a real conservative can't possibly hope to compete with the free stuff liberal. We are screwed because most people value laziness and comfort over freedom because freedom requires effort and responsibility. Trump is still going to get my vote because his beliefs are marginally more similar to mine than Hillary's. Maybe he'll get trickle down economics going again.

[Dave_L]

I disagree.

Trump is here because Americans value celebrity more than substance.

And why do they value that? Politicians and the media.

[Irving]

I disagree.

Trump is here because Americans value celebrity more than substance.

I don't agree with that. I think people want the things Trump says, but he's not able to do anything beyond repeat what people say on Twitter. If there were a candidate that would call out liberals, and the "system," and was polished and professional than Eric Cartman, they'd have an easy time winning this election.

I'm sure there are politicians out there like, but none out there willing to speak up loud enough to get anyone's attention. Or if they do, and no one has heard of them, they get ignored due to being unfamiliar. I think the familiarity is important, but it doesn't necessarily need to be at the celebrity level.