Trump carries

[roberth]

And why do they value that? Politicians and the media.

Disagree again.

The root cause is because their parents failed to teach them the things that really matter and then the parents failed once again to drive the schools to reinforce the training the children received at home.

There is a book titled "Your Teacher Said What?", wherein the author had to undo on a daily basis what the school was teaching.

[roberth]

I don't agree with that. I think people want the things Trump says, but he's not able to do anything beyond repeat what people say on Twitter. If there were a candidate that would call out liberals, and the "system," and was polished and professional than Eric Cartman, they'd have an easy time winning this election.

I'm sure there are politicians out there like, but none out there willing to speak up loud enough to get anyone's attention. Or if they do, and no one has heard of them, they get ignored due to being unfamiliar. I think the familiarity is important, but it doesn't necessarily need to be at the celebrity level.

You might be right.

I may be too harsh in judging my fellow Americans because my expectations are too high. I expect people to research stuff like the guys and gal on this board do, that may be unrealistic because I do not have the distractions of raising children or television.

[Martinjmpr]

Trump gets his popularity by saying exactly what people want to hear, and not much more. His whole campaign is all surface with little depth. If someone created a bot to pull one liners from what people on this site alone have said, and gave them to a public figure to spout out in measured intervals, you'd have the Trump run for presidency.

Yup, exactly. Trump is just mirroring what the most prominent conservatives have been saying for years, almost word for word.

I have no love for Trump, I think he's a fraud and a fake and I doubt he would really want to be president anyway since being Donald Trump is a WAY better gig than being president.

But I understand the appeal.

Conservatives and Republicans feel like the kid in Junior High who gets beat up and has his lunch money taken every day by the school bully and the school does nothing to stop it.

The major "opinion makers" in pop culture - the news media, the entertainment industry and academia - all take turns telling us daily how stupid Republicans and conservatives are. Every stand up comedian and comedy show makes fun of conservatives. Colleges and universities tell you that if you hold conservative values you are racist, homophobic, sick, evil, etc. Those are the school bullies and no matter how many conservative outlets there are on the news, internet, etc, there are ALWAYS more of them, and their voices are louder and more mainstream.

People are tired of it and so when they get a "bully" of their own, who stands up to the media, they naturally rally around him (even though he's said and done some pretty stupid things in the past) just because those people are tired of getting beaten up every day.

So while I don't share the enthusiasm for Trump, I get it.

[Dave_L]

Disagree again.

The root cause is because their parents failed to teach them the things that really matter and then the parents failed once again to drive the schools to reinforce the training the children received at home.

There is a book titled "Your Teacher Said What?", wherein the author had to undo on a daily basis what the school was teaching.

I think we're on the same page here. It's all pieces to the same puzzle. Parents let tv/internet take over which led to idolizing the things they see there and so on. It's all part of the problem.

[davsel]

Yup, exactly. Trump is just mirroring what the most prominent conservatives have been saying for years, almost word for word.

I have no love for Trump, I think he's a fraud and a fake and I doubt he would really want to be president anyway since being Donald Trump is a WAY better gig than being president.

But I understand the appeal.

Conservatives and Republicans feel like the kid in Junior High who gets beat up and has his lunch money taken every day by the school bully and the school does nothing to stop it.

The major "opinion makers" in pop culture - the news media, the entertainment industry and academia - all take turns telling us daily how stupid Republicans and conservatives are. Every stand up comedian and comedy show makes fun of conservatives. Colleges and universities tell you that if you hold conservative values you are racist, homophobic, sick, evil, etc. Those are the school bullies and no matter how many conservative outlets there are on the news, internet, etc, there are ALWAYS more of them, and their voices are louder and more mainstream.

People are tired of it and so when they get a "bully" of their own, who stands up to the media, they naturally rally around him (even though he's said and done some pretty stupid things in the past) just because those people are tired of getting beaten up every day.

So while I don't share the enthusiasm for Trump, I get it.

Scott Adams agrees
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/1522934...he-bully-party

[Irving]

So while I don't share the enthusiasm for Trump, I get it.

Yes, exactly this.

[cstone]

[roberth]

I think we're on the same page here. It's all pieces to the same puzzle. Parents let tv/internet take over which led to idolizing the things they see there and so on. It's all part of the problem.

We are.

[Bailey Guns]

I think Trump is the republican party-created Frankenstein. The people elected republicans on the promise of a more conservative government. The republicans elected failed to produce time after time after time. People got tired of it. The big "FU" to the republican party really started when they failed to go out and vote for Romney by the millions (though that was somewhat like cutting off your nose to spite your face). It's no secret conservatives are disgusted with the republican party. Trump capitalized on the sentiment and here we are.

I'm really not a fan. But I have to say I've noticed a big improvement in the content and delivery in his speeches from a few months ago and today. It's almost like he's turning into the standard politician. Yippee.

[Aloha_Shooter]

Bailey, I usually agree with you but I think Trump is instead the Republican Party's nightmare. He's an outsider who capitalized on Republicans fed up with establishment "strategy" and non-Republicans to take over the GOP nomination. He claimed he was bringing all these people to the Republican Party; how many will actually vote Republican in the General? People can look forward to more of it if they pass 107 and 108. I'm Unaffiliated myself but when I feel strongly about a desire to express an opinion on ______ Party's nomination, I register with that party.

I am a big fan of conservatives taking back the GOP but Trump is hardly an example of that. As you say, disgruntled conservatives probably fed the big "FU" to the party but I don't think they were a fundamental force behind it. I agree, the content of his speeches has improved this week -- I wish the speeches he and his son Eric gave this week had been done a month ago. I wish they'd been airing the anti-Hillary ads for the past month. I hope to God I'm slapping myself in 2 weeks thinking, "President-elect Trump? Really?"