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    Today is the big day. Will Trump carry the vote or will the country vote for 4 more years of failure and the ever-shrinking economy.l

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    The votes are in for Dixville Notch, NH.

    4 votes for HRC
    2 votes for Trump
    1 for Gary Johnson
    1 write-in for Mitt Romney

    I sure hope that the outcome isn't handed to HRC due to 3rd party and protest votes that aren't productive but make people feel good emotionally for a few hours.
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    Idiots get the government they deserve.

    If you like the status quo vote HRC.

    If you want the opportunity for a change vote Trump.

    If you think feelings trump behavior vote (L)oser parties.
    Last edited by roberth; 11-08-2016 at 08:52.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roberth View Post
    Idiots get the government they deserve.
    Unfortunately, non-idiots surrounded by idiots get the government that the idiots deserve.
    Modern liberalism is based on the idea that reality is obligated to conform to one's beliefs because; "I have the right to believe whatever I want".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    Unfortunately, non-idiots surrounded by idiots get the government that the idiots deserve.
    Indeed sir.

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    On the topic of gun bans/confiscation/buyback/etc... Australia didn't work- they only had about 30% turn in (there are still tons of guns in Aussieland), and the bad guys certainly didn't. It won't work here, even if they effectively outlaw the 2nd Amendment, which would be impossible without a ratifying vote. Ban? The most we'll see is another Bill Clinton-esque AWB, which if HRC is elected, and the R's lose the down ballot, count on it, but they'll more than likely grandfather in what's already out there, making it as useless as the magazine ban here in CO. Voluntary buy-back? Some will, most won't. Turn in your guns? Yeah right, too many would say "hell no!" Who can enforce that? Registration? Again, if Hillary and congress are elected, count on something like it coming down the pipe. But again, relies too much on voluntary compliance, like so many here, most won't. The only option is to comb through all the 4473's sitting with the ATF and local gun stores- it'll literally take a decade to complete.

    Confiscation? Never going to happen. No life-respecting LEO would ever go door to door. Same with military and federal LE. We all live in the communities we serve, we would effectively be putting a massive target on our backs, and that'll never go through- Much less any County Sheriff ordering his guys to do so, too many David Clarkes out there. The only viable option would be to shut down the gun industry in America, which would be very difficult, to halt the supply of new firearms into the market. They can try to make possession of an "assault weapon" a felony, but if too many stand up and say no, it'll fail.
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    Leaving aside the fact the media (even Fox) uses the "new" colors of Red=Republican/Blue=Democrat (historically it was the other way around ... the media reversed the colors without any explanation or comment for the 1984 election), I prefer the county-by-county map displayed on Fox that showed just how widespread the support for Trump was and how concentrated Hillary's vote was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by foxtrot View Post
    Addressed to nobody in particular:
    Revolution never will be an option because the state fully wrenched control of communications interception and the education system - two things more powerful than any collection of firearms. You have no ability to organize and you never will. The people (like last election) that are unhappy they can't get their ideal candidate (of which there would be 300 million ideal candidates, seriously, lets grow up) always like to say "screw it all, I want to see it all burn so we can get this over with and start anew".

    Reality check: Nothing will happen, not now, not twenty years from now, not forty years from now. If you open your arms and welcome socialism thinking it will hasten a refresh, you're mistaken. The "producers" of society cannot bring about that change with any form of violence, the card is just not available. If they wanted to act, they needed to decades ago, too late bucko.

    Now, the leeches in socialism - once free shit stops, they have that card, they might resort to (unorganized) violence ala Ferguson on a multiple city scale. What the end result is after that is not beneficial, and will be worse than what we have now, however. So stop your hedonistic whining, grow up, and accept reality, not an "ideological perfect fairy tale land" or you're personal philosophy is no better than those you oppose. Work now to preserve your later.

    This is almost identical to being young and just expecting your retirement to magically be there at the end of the rainbow while you sit on your duff for forty years. If you're not working for a good result today, it won't be there tomorrow - or ever. Once you grow up and realize it it's a bit too late.
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    Socialism fails slowly and painfully, when those that have come to expect the free stuff have it taken away because the producers have lost incentive to excel, they start doing just enough to get by, because if they do more, they are taxed back down to that level anyway, with the excuse that they're just greedy... But it's not the producers that start the riots, it's the takers- when there is nothing left to take.
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    Quote Originally Posted by foxtrot View Post
    It amazes me (and really, doesn't amaze me...) as to how hard the media is pushing anti- trump rhetoric at this stage in the game. They aren't even trying to feign the bias anymore.

    And all the GOP/libertarian/independent sheep are bleating it right up. "I'm outraged because the media repeatedly told me to be outraged!". That pretty much sums up where we are today.

    Early on in the campaign the media was arguably pro-trump. That - as you can see in some of the wikilinks side of things - probably has a lot to do with the fact that trump was polling the worst against hillary as all the possible nominees, all of the rest whom appeared they were likely to beat her. So they desperately needed Trump nominated. Then they hold all these faux outrage cards until the last moment.

    Like I've said before - the winner of this race was already decided years ago. To those that are outraged, I have to ask is your feelings legitimate, or are you in fact, bleating with the sheep. Think about it....
    Been the topic of numerous conversations had. one of them this morning. The question is...... how bad does the voting public want to see the Fix taken down. Clearly there cannot be that many people bamboozled by this shit show. or can there? We did get 2 terms of Obama.
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